Subject: old music
Date: Sun May 28 15:01:04 2017
User: hotnurse
Message:Another one bites the dust...pretty much by his own doings, too...but still a loss.
At least I got to see them once, live, back in the 80's in Indy. Memorable time.
Date: Thu Jun 15 01:30:57 2017
User: TNmountainman
Message:I was gonna post this........then I wasn't......now I am. It's just ultra-campy. I have found myself playing over and over the section from 3:45 to 7:00. Somewhat hypnotic. (IMO, ignore what's after 7:00.) Some nice surf footage......
Very strange how I was brought to this (as can happen on gootube). I was listening to a bunch of old Doc Watson stuff, and there's this one of Nokie Edwards (after playing a set) gettin' all excited meeting Doc (before his show) in the parking lot of the Sugar Grove festival (not too far from me) in 2006.
Link: The Ventures 'turning Japanese' (1977)
Date: Thu Jun 15 07:34:19 2017
User: outskirts
Message:Last thing I looked up at youtub, two days ago, was the Alice Cooper song Clones. There is a super campy video! I don't remember ever having seen it. Not your typical Alice Cooper. LOL
Enjoy, it's less than three minutes..
Link: I just wanna be myself!
Date: Thu Jun 15 22:58:12 2017
User: BuzzClik
Message:Alice Cooper as we've never seen him -- dabbling in punk.
And speaking of punk and Alice: Whenever I think of Alice Cooper, I eventually think of his despise for Vampire Weekend. So, a tip of the hat to Mr. Cooper and his punk experience.
Link: Vampire Weekend, "A-Punk"
Date: Wed Jun 21 11:36:27 2017
User: Franko
Message:I just found this discussion board and I really love "old music".
For others like me, here is a golden tip. How about 20's, 30's, 40's, amd some wonderful old contemporary songs from the 50's and beyond, 24/7 with no commercials? Just go to kcea.org and click on the old fashioned radio which you will see on their home page and the music will start streaming.
I found an app that has KCEA 89.1 on it and I ought a pair of ear buds, now I can listen to KCEA when I am walking.
Enjoy.
Link: Old fashioned music 24/7
Date: Wed Jun 21 11:48:24 2017
User: TNmountainman
Message:Just got around to watching the Alice Cooper video "Clones". Bizarre. Are we sure that's not Devo, or David Bowie channeling Devo?
p.s. - I strongly suspect there was lip-synching involved there.
Date: Thu Jun 22 18:39:25 2017
User: Franko
Message:You tube....look for Paul Byrum.......3m33s video. He finds some old records in his Grandpa's attic. Now that is some old music. If your a senior you gotta check it out.
Link: Paul Byrum
Date: Sat Jun 24 02:11:35 2017
User: Puck_Frogressivism
Message:Subject caught my attention. Really like the old blues and ragtime guitarists. Especially all the "blind" guys. I wonder why there were so many of them?
Date: Sat Jun 24 04:10:07 2017
User: TNmountainman
Message:Just not that many optometrists and opthamolgists in the Delta in the '20s and '30s - not to mention affordable ones?
Date: Sat Jun 24 12:53:27 2017
User: Franko
Message:Check out Albert Ammons & Pete Johnson doing classic Boogie Woogie. It don't get no better den dat.
Link: Albert Ammons & Pete Johnson
Date: Sat Jun 24 13:00:15 2017
User: Franko
Message:I am just learning about this site.
I have posted a couple of great videos in "old music" and I see I have received a bunch of reply's but I can't find them. Could someone tell me how to do that?
Date: Sat Jun 24 13:33:07 2017
User: TNmountainman
Message:Franko, your link doesn't work. But perhaps my link below (which hopefully will work) is what you were attempting to show us.
And we don't know what you mean by not being able to see "replies", or not finding them. Any replies or responses should show on this page - which you can obviously see and access because you're posting hereon.
Link: Ammons and Johnson's "Boogie Woogie Dreams"
Date: Sat Jun 24 20:52:01 2017
User: Franko
Message:Hi TNmountainman. Thanks for getting back to me.
Yes, I wanted to share that Ammons & Johnson clip and you obviously found it. Since you replied and I saw it, I think that that means you are the only one to reply to the four posts that I have made since I found this site. And that the 161 replies that I see are to the first person who started the Old Music thread. If I am correct, then I must be smarter than I look.
Did you see my post for Paul Byrum on You Tube? It is one of my favorites. Look for the clip entitled "Doo Wacka Doo". I won't use the links option any more.
Date: Sun Jun 25 12:10:35 2017
User: outskirts
Message:There are four pages, you know. I started the thread when I was xeena. By the way, buzzclik and lumberjack are also filthymcnasty.
Date: Sun Jun 25 12:16:23 2017
User: outskirts
Message:I was also Dr.X and wildcard. I have chatted with you, Franko, as wildcard back when I chatted. You are from CA?
Date: Sun Jun 25 12:17:53 2017
User: hotnurse
Message:THanks for the outing of filthy...now wonder I love him because I love buzz and his antics. Lumber was a more moderate version of buzz.
Date: Sun Jun 25 12:22:41 2017
User: outskirts
Message:Filthy outed himself long ago. In one of buzz music threads he posted some music, and forgot to change his name. LOL
Date: Sun Jun 25 13:58:25 2017
User: hotnurse
Message:outskirts, I didn't mean ill by saying that you outed him...only that it was something I had either long forgotten or just now knew. Outing can be a good thing. Peace out.
Date: Sun Jun 25 14:46:11 2017
User: Franko
Message:Hey Outskirts/Dr.X/wildcard.
Whatever you call yourself these days. I think I remember Wildcard from my chatting days on Freecell. I miss that chatroom and I liked all of the people I met there. The one I remember best (but I can't remember his name) was the gentleman from up near the Arctic Circle who raised raindeer. Do you remember him? Nice hearing from ya. Oh!! and yes and I live in the San Francisco Bay Area. San Leandro to be exact.
Date: Sun Jun 25 16:49:04 2017
User: Ginxi
Message:Ginxi: thank you tnmountian man for the twins clip and Imelda may that is great music I always love your clips and any kind of music pretty much. also loved the old chats but wasn't very good at it apprecitated all of you though thanks for the memories and sounds
Date: Tue Aug 22 10:56:28 2017
User: TNmountainman
Message:As long as this thread has been extant, I can't believe no one's put this up. Certainly "old" music.
(Alternative, low-quality, but cute version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBbr9qM9uv8)
Link: ancient history?
Date: Sun Sep 24 04:32:57 2017
User: outskirts
Message:Monterey 1967
Wonderful crowd scenes
The man on stage
The band
<3
Link: Otis anyone?
Date: Mon Sep 25 03:32:15 2017
User: TNmountainman
Message:As many here know, the 1967 Monterey Pop Festival was a stunning coming-out party for several musical 'acts'. In some ways, it was more important than Woodstock 2 years later. That said....notice (esp. hotnurse) that Otis's backing band was Booker T. and the MGs - which included our previously-discussed Steve Cropper and Duck Dunn.
Anyway.....I was like 95+% sure I had earlier posted one of Janis's numbers earlier on this board, but can find it not now. So...I'm repeating it (I think) below. This is now 50 years on, and still riveting. I recommend full-screen.
One pretty much can't go wrong checking out anything from the 1967 Monterey Pop Festival. Fortunately, a great many of the performances are on gootube, and most high quality.
As just one more suggestion, watch Pete and Keith go to work on "Summertime Blues":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOp3yLvQu1E (Again recommend full-screen.)
Link: Tell us about it, Janis
Date: Wed Oct 11 02:56:30 2017
User: dcn21
Message: I have always been amazed by her performance of that song at Monterey, and that incredible guitar intro by James Gurley (RIP), which most people these days probably wouldn't care for. That is my favorite song by Janis and Big Brother was my favorite band of hers.
Date: Thu Oct 12 10:30:29 2017
User: TNmountainman
Message:I always liked the best of Gurley's stuff, too, but so much of it on their albums wasn't as strong as his best, inspired work. I actually almost mentioned that in my post above. I know he did some more jazzy and offbeat stuff later on, but I'm not as familiar with that.
Date: Fri Oct 13 09:27:48 2017
User: hotnurse
Message:Thanks, TN for the links. I could sit here all day and just listen to good music.
Btw, besides Cropper, my son also played on stage (at one of the White House Innauguration Balls) with Smokey Robinson. Great memories and accomplishments for sonny.
Date: Fri Oct 13 15:23:08 2017
User: BuzzClik
Message:Wilco.
Had the pleasure of seeing these fine young gentlemen in concert a bit ago. My son sat next to me and schooled me about the origins of their music, the transitions of the band (genre and personnel), and ins-and-outs of the compositions. It was a great experience.
Here's one of their more accessible tunes, from fifteen years ago (old music IMHO).
Link: Wilco, "Heavy Metal Drummer"
Date: Sat Oct 14 11:37:52 2017
User: TNmountainman
Message:self-commentary:
I would *never* have thought to put something about Wilco in "Old Music" - but that just shows my age bias/longevity/time scale. Makes me feel old. (as if....)
That said, I like and respect Wilco pretty much, altho not that particular song. Never saw them, but toyed with the idea of doing so just this very week since they were just over the mountain Monday night. Also passed on Tweedy (solo?) at a big festival here 2 years ago. Just too many choices. I honestly am not sure if I saw Uncle Tupelo as an opening band to someone else back in the '90s or not (that was after I quit keeping my list).
So much music; so little time....
Link: Wilco in Asheville this week
Date: Sat Oct 14 12:58:23 2017
User: BuzzClik
Message:Heavy Metal Drummer is probably their their most "pop" song -- very accessible to lots of folks.
My first exposure to them was the album "Yankee Hotel Foxtrot", and I like just about everything on the album. They have explored a range of sounds from the pop mentioned above to southern rock, country-rock, folk, hard-edged indie sounds, etc.
I am curious, TN, what you like from the Wilco/Uncle Tupelo collection...
Date: Sat Oct 14 14:14:26 2017
User: TNmountainman
Message:I do not own any of their CDs, but have borrowed a couple from a friend in the past. I very much like, and especially the guitar work on, "Impossible Germany" and "Art of Almost", two of the numbers mentioned in the "Mountain XPress" article I linked. Indisputably great stuff there.
I wish I could remember which two CDs I had borrowed. They **may** have been "Sky Blue Sky" and "Wilco (The Album)". I'm pretty sure the former was one of them. My general memory/impression of them was that they were thematically coherent and solid - and yet (I think more upon reflection) less ambitious and avant garde than their earlier stuff (with which I was less familiar). Some of their stuff reminded me of Beck (not the "Jeff" one), and maybe even some of R.E.M. I'm admittedly relatively thin in my knowledge base of their catalogue (and see that as a deficit in *my* catalogue, so to speak). (Again, so much music; so little time.)
As to Uncle Tupelo, I'll readily admit I semi-dismissed them early on as being "too country" for my tastes, and so I likely by-passed some good opportunities (and maybe some good music). I, like probably some others, see them as standing taller in retrospect - yet without fully knowing how and why. But within my circle of highly knowledgeable friends and acquaintances, that initial impression was pretty much the same - not necessarily unworthy; just "too country".
As yet another tangent.....I'm also only peripherally knowledgeable on Jay Farrar (a founder of Tupelo) and Son Volt (current group), although there's a couple of their efforts I'm partial to. They did a work-up of a Carter Family tune ("No Depression") that's nice and gets at what they're about. He apparently was much influenced by Hank Williams, too. But for a superb (imo) insight, check out "Back Against the Wall", and tell me it's not Jackson Browne's "Before the Deluge" brought back around (with Neil Young on guitar, though, and without David Lindley's sublime fiddle). I just also passed on Farrar and Son Volt here last month ("so much music; so little time"). I think that's 3(?) times I could have seen them. This was at the same festival Tweedy was at 2 years ago.
Jackson Browne's "Before the Deluge" for comparison (esp. the last 1/2 or 1/3):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqfDpNymGSE&list=PLWnVxuqvY7JhjGLR1AJgGBuYgKhDIqm-1&index=8
Now, a comment about "accessible"....... I agree with you that it normally means more "pop", which often in my brainbone means "less challenging" or "*too* accessible". But as to my reaction to that particular song, with two listens, I just found nothing "accessible" or even worthwhile. Obviously just imo. No offense. Oh, and to me accessible tends to mean having at least a couple good 'hooks'. Maybe one thought I'd have about Wilco is that have for the most part, eschewed that device. Nothing wrong at all with that, but also makes their music a bit less memorable some of the time.
Sorry for the long and dense (to me) post.
Link: Son Volt's "Back Against the Wall"
Date: Sun Oct 15 10:00:05 2017
User: BuzzClik
Message:Wilco played "The Whole Love" during the concert I witnessed. The sound was basically the same as the album version, but the arrangement was totally different. They abandoned some of the tech sounds, and the heavier percussion and guitar parts were simply layered over the top of the vocals. It was a bit noisy but really interesting.
They also played "Impossible Germany", much to the delight of the crowd, who lit up the the place with cheers and applause with the first bar.
By the way, I recognize that you and I have different taste in music, so your comments are your own personal impressions. No offense taken.
As for "accessibility": generally only two people on this board respond to my comments about music -- you and hotnurse. I began tailoring my posts to avoid music she calls "too out there." My challenge is finding tunes within her listening sphere by artists who, on the whole, she'd probably find "out there". I also know that if you have time and the interest, you'll explore the music further (e.g., Neutral Milk Hotel) unless you already know the band (e.g., Wilco).
Date: Sun Oct 15 13:30:57 2017
User: TNmountainman
Message:I agree about our different tastes, but always find your comments worthwhile. I sincerely regret I haven't had/made much time to delve into your suggestions in the "Interesting New Music" thread. It's on my "list of things to do", but, well, you know how life is.
I absolutely have a hole in my knowledge of the "indie" genre of music, and I've been thinking about why that is. I've decided that it's maybe largely because of where I 'get' my music - which is radio, ~97% being public radio. And probably 65-80% of that being Americana, which is just my sweet spot for multiple reasons. If you'll recall, I posed the question a few years ago about trying to find a receiver that will 'tune in' various internet radio stations. Well.....that quest still is in progress, and I've found it maddeningly difficult to solve. To me, it seems like the totally obvious thing to have, and just don't understand why (most) everyone wouldn't want such. Why would one *not* want to be able to (quickly) go back and forth between several great PBS radio stations, just like on a regular radio, except the whole world is available? I know there are some partial solutions, but not remotely close to the way I want it. Of course when one 'tunes' into an internet site, there's buffering, initiation, etc., etc., which would make switching back and forth not instantaneous, but, to my way of thinking, it should be able to be accomplished quickly. With bandwidth the way it is today, how hard would it be to have, say, 10 different internet streams buffered and available simultaneously? I've spoken to several audio "experts" whose business it is to sell, service, and build audio equipment, and none of them has been able to solve this. I know there's that Sirius thing, but it costs money, and is only a mere sampling - not to mention it's "push" rather than "pull" technology. Anyway, enough of that tangent.....
But yes, I have the interest, just not the time (unless I just set to make it a priority somehow).
How did you like the Son Volt thing?
Date: Sun Oct 15 14:19:48 2017
User: TNmountainman
Message:I had had The Pretenders "Don't Get Me Wrong" bouncing around in my head for several days, totally out of nowhere, when I noticed they were coming on "Austin City Limits" last night. (And I know it's partially syndicated, and some locales may get it tonight, or some other time.) But anyway, as the show opened, the very first thing on was the teaser stuff giving hints as to what's going to be on the show, and wouldn't you know the very first tease was "Don't Get Me Wrong". Very weird and karmic, I thought.
The show was decent, I guess, but obviously not the original experience. Although the band never fully regained their tough, tight sound after the deaths of James Honeyman-Scott and Pete Farndon, Chrissie and Martin Chambers (always underrated) have off and on been able to still make some great music. With all that said, a pretty good recent rendition of a 1986 song....(works well full-screen)...
Link: "It might just be fantastic......"
Date: Tue Oct 17 14:32:10 2017
User: TNmountainman
Message:"And now for something completely different......"
I actually thought someone else had posted this years ago, but can't find it. Sorry if'n it's a duplicate.
There are many other good selections on gootube of her, if anyone likes this. I know it's starkness won't appeal to a great many, but us mountainfolk appreciate it.
Link: "I've endured"
Date: Wed Nov 22 11:36:53 2017
User: TNmountainman
Message:Who knew the Jefferson Airplane was on "American Bandstand"? I didn't. Or possibly that was so long ago I'd long ago forgotten. Nothing novel musically here, as it's obviously just the original recordings. But the visuals are "interesting", and the best part is probably the "interview" segment at the end (and slightly at the beginning). And remember, this was just at the very beginning of "The Summer of Love".
Link: Jefferson Airplane, meet Dick Clark
Date: Wed Nov 22 12:04:13 2017
User: TNmountainman
Message:To tag along with that..........two years later..........
Since the Airplane didn't make the cut of the Woodstock movie (at least the original cut), many people have never seen their performance there. I kinda like this one - except that while Grace is obviously the mesmerizing 'star', "loved by the camera", they should have shown more of Jorma's and Jack's excellent work. While they did get a couple of songs onto the director's cut (which adds some fascinating stuff onto the original), I don't think this was in that, either. "White Rabbit" is also available on gootube from Woodstock, and maybe some others, too.
And for those who haven't kept up, Jorma is still playing (and teaching), mostly Americana music the last many years, although Hot Tuna plays a few shows here and there, too. Highly regarded guitarist; underrated by many who don't know of his body of work.
Link: Grace and the Airplane at Woodstock
Date: Fri Dec 15 06:00:59 2017
User: outskirts
Message:I work closely with a lady who worked Woodstock and every "love-in" from coast to coast. It was her job to procure whatever the ladies wanted. Most notable ladies Janis and Grace. I have asked her all sorts of questions about that. She blithely tells all, but I have to specifically ask. After TN posted this I asked her what Grace's preferences were, and she unhesitatingly said cocaine. And marijuana. I said her performance was awesome, she replied, "...high as a kite". She always says they were very nice women. Probably shouldn't put this here. Oh well. No big surprise, right?
Date: Wed Mar 28 07:27:25 2018
User: TNmountainman
Message:'Cause there's just not enough Townes on this site........
After the linked one, if you're into it, follow it up with this one (and there's more there, too):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFh4DebJAfs
Link: Townes, I believe from 1975
Date: Mon May 14 12:57:43 2018
User: TNmountainman
Message:Ok, I think this well represents the word "old" in the title of this thread. About 2/3 of the way down, there is a picture/link that allows one to listen to some (modern-day) performers trying to resurrect this music:
Link: ***OLD*** music
Date: Sun Jun 24 12:07:59 2018
User: BuzzClik
Message:When I turn to old recordings, I go all the way back. I believe this is the original recording of Mood Indigo. Digitally remastered to add a depth, balance, and eliminate the scratchiness.
Link: "Mood Indigo", Duke Ellington
Date: Sun Jul 1 20:38:53 2018
User: Franko
Message:I have a little project that comes under the heading of Old Music for anyone who is looking for something to do.
Go to Google and type in William Tell Overture Finale and look for a 2 min 06 sec clip by the Milwaukee Symphony Orchestra. Then go to go back to Google and type in Buddy Greene at Carnegie Hall.
This one blew my mind. I'd luv to hear what ya think.
Date: Thu Jul 19 11:00:06 2018
User: hotnurse
Message:Franko, I am looking forward to your input on this thread. You couldn't have found a better site to read intelligent synopsis and thoughts on the myriad of music from these players.
Date: Mon Aug 20 10:35:36 2018
User: TNmountainman
Message:New all-time leader for sales of an album.....
When I saw the pic, I thought "Wow, I had no idea "Hotel California" had sold *that* many copies." Even more surprised to see what it actually was.
Link: New all-time leader in album sales
Date: Wed Aug 22 20:23:05 2018
User: SixIron
Message:If you want old, I gotcha covered. Digitized 78 RPM vinyl recordings here; https://archive.org/details/georgeblood
33 1/3 and 45 RPM need not apply.
Link: Old music
Date: Thu Aug 23 11:24:30 2018
User: TNmountainman
Message:That's pretty neat. It's just SO hard to find a copy of "Chop Suey Mambo" or "Shut Up and Drink Your Beer".
Some *really* interesting things there.
And as to most-selling (U.S.) albums, I didn't realize how close I was to actually being right about "Hotel California" taking over the #1 spot...
Link: "Hotel California" is actually #3
Date: Thu Aug 23 16:31:57 2018
User: BuzzClik
Message:Saw these guys in concert last night. Great stuff. Lots of Old Timey music, lots of Appalachian traditional tunes.
Link: https://youtu.be/KJuWGdcECMY
Date: Thu Aug 23 19:54:51 2018
User: TNmountainman
Message:Gillian and David are good folks - and know their stuff. They were responsible for getting Old Crow to move to Nashville from near here and that gave them "a 'nuther level" of visibility and success. I mention that only because Ketch Secor is in town here tonight to do a couple of shows. And David has done a lot of work with Old Crow and that crowd.
I kinda liked Gillian by herself more, but David, being a Berklee guy, adds depth, and he's been slowly growing on me. Glad you caught them.
Date: Fri Aug 24 23:57:23 2018
User: Turpin827
Message:This is me singing in "Ring Of Fire", a Johnny Cash tribute concert, a couple of years ago.
Link: Man In Black
Date: Wed Sep 26 15:35:20 2018
User: outskirts
Message:Probably posted this before and probably will again. It's an epic live performance of the Allman Brothers Band from Jan. 1982. It happened at the U of FL bandshell! The video is professional, and it's awesome! The song is the instrumental Jessica. It features the great Dickey Betts, a founding member we always missed after he left the band.
I posted this on Facebook the other day, then heard Dickey had fallen at home last week, requiring brain surgery! He's okay! But had to cancel some dates.
Link: Jessica
Post follow-up