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Subject: Never won winnables!


Date: Fri Feb 2 04:03:15 2018
User: TNmountainman
Message:
Another one that didn't seem too hard, but I can see how there could be pitfalls: 6x6 #5658-8. Now 1/6.

Date: Sun Feb 4 08:27:54 2018
User: joeygray
Message:
This doesn't blong here, since there is no 11x0 winnable, but anyway I'm pumped about having worked this one out on my first try: Game #: 11x0 6038 Game stats: 28/1/3.57% Difficulty: 5 Elapsed: 12:39

Date: Sun Feb 4 10:07:15 2018
User: TitanicTony
Message:
I'm sorry! The title of this thread should not have been: "Never won winnables". It should have been: "Never won winnable games". It was never meant (by me) to be only for the winnable variants!! Primarily, it is for games that you failed to win, so that others can try! But, it is also for mentioning any "significant" successes! So, well done joeygray. And TN. And many others. I win a lot (hundreds) of previously unwon games, just because they have never been played before.

Date: Thu Feb 8 11:38:08 2018
User: free@last
Message:
This would normally be a streak killer Took 81 moves; 252 card moves. Game #: 8x3 2726 Game stats: 28/1/3.57% Difficulty: 10 Elapsed: 18:37

Date: Fri Feb 9 10:56:17 2018
User: Goosey_Goosey_Gander
Message:
I hope never to see it

Date: Fri Feb 9 13:12:45 2018
User: TitanicTony
Message:
Imo, this was an unusually difficult w6x5 game: Congratulations! You Win,... Game #: 6x5 15166/8,... Game stats: 12/1/8.33%.

Date: Fri Feb 9 23:08:56 2018
User: Klepp
Message:
14991-10 8X3 Three previous losses.

Date: Sat Feb 10 02:49:06 2018
User: TNmountainman
Message:
This one may well not be winnable, but it sure acts like it wants to be put out of it's misery. Only gave it two tries, but the second try I came quite close. Or maybe some of you who delve into the black arts (tongue in cheek) of solvers and such can declare it a dead end. 11x0-5 #7583 Now 0/63 - which likely means others have found it tantalizing, too, and may well be a lost cause.

Date: Sat Feb 10 10:02:34 2018
User: Turpin827
Message:
Holy cow that deal was a bastard but I won it after about 20 tries and a deck of cards! 11X0 - 5 7583 is now 77/1/1.30% I set my sights on clearing column 3 by getting that queen on the king in 2. You have to play the cards in just the right order to make that happen, and then your problems are just beginning. Don't let a big stack form over the 2 black aces. Uncover them and you're home free.

Date: Sun Feb 11 01:44:32 2018
User: TNmountainman
Message:
I didn't have a world of trouble (the second time thru) getting to that first part (clearing that column). And you're right - that's only the beginning of the problem. Can't remember what tripped me up, but it was well after that. I actually got to where I thought I had a chance, only to crash at (what looked like) near the end. I wouldn't have posted this one if I didn't think it had a possibility.

Date: Mon Feb 12 16:25:19 2018
User: TitanicTony
Message:
Congratulations! You Win,... Game #: 6x6 23605/6,... Game stats: 3/1/33.33%.

Date: Sat Feb 17 10:41:26 2018
User: RogerB
Message:
joeygray - Yes, it does " blong" here. In the very preceding post, Tony explained that. His very first post contains a 6 x 6 game, which does not have a "winnable" variant either

Date: Sat Feb 17 13:26:05 2018
User: TNmountainman
Message:
While Tony has more than once 'splained his original intent, and I think we know that to be true, just to be precise and accurate.........his very first post (of this thread, which started it) didn't contain a 6x6 game - but two 6x5 games (for which there *is* a winnable subset). He should have been more specific in said original post, as "winnables" is the common term herein for the "winnable" flavor of game sorted out by free@last - not just games that are beatable in general. Myself, and obviously many/most in the first page or two or three were under the impression that what he meant was that (known-winnable-by-free@last) subset. But he later better specified he meant *any* games that were capable of being won.

Date: Sun Feb 18 13:54:14 2018
User: Kaos
Message:
8x2-11 #10166 1/36

Date: Tue Feb 20 16:24:08 2018
User: Kaos
Message:
This one is from today's Threat: Game: 7x3 31942-9 Plays: 31 Wins: 1 Percentage: 3.23 It definitely looks unwinnable because the red aces appear to be hopelessly buried.

Date: Tue Feb 20 16:28:34 2018
User: Kaos
Message:
Followed by this one while streaking: Game #: 7x3 25165 Game stats: 31/1/3.23% Difficulty: 5 Elapsed: 1:47 Streak: 2

Date: Tue Mar 13 13:23:28 2018
User: Kaos
Message:
Game #: 11x1 16883 Game stats: 3/1/33.33% Difficulty: 9 Elapsed: 5:42 Streak: 42

Date: Tue Mar 13 14:57:41 2018
User: ix
Message:
second try, 8:31, not sure if i played brilliantly or blunderingly

Link: http://freecell.net/f/c/view_one_game.html?;16883,9,11x1

Date: Sat Mar 17 06:48:15 2018
User: TitanicTony
Message:
Congratulations! You Win,... Game #: 7x4 17768/10,... Game stats: 3/1/33.33%,... Streak: 155.

Date: Sat Mar 17 23:20:32 2018
User: travelonsoutlaw
Message:
game 18717 seems to be unwinnable, been trying for an hour now and have restarted game about 6 times

Date: Sun Mar 18 05:40:04 2018
User: TitanicTony
Message:
That would presumably be game w13x0, #18717, level 9. According to the game stats, that game has already been won 11 times out of 32 plays (34.38%). Before your 6 loses, it would have been 11/26 = 42.31%. So, not easy, but definitely winnable.

Date: Sun Mar 18 12:29:21 2018
User: TNmountainman
Message:
I'd say 90+% chance that's *not* the game he was referring to. Almost certainly he(?)'s referring to something in 8x4, and it's even possible he's referring to the Microsoft set of deals, not Denny's. I'm not going to take the time to check out those stats, however.

Date: Sat Mar 31 11:16:49 2018
User: ElGuapo
Message:
This one barely qualifies as the stats are now 1/1, but it was a fun deal. I'm not sure this was the best path to take, but I put up ten cards of one suit before freeing any other aces. 4×10 30677-6

Date: Fri Apr 13 09:38:32 2018
User: jamesblackburn-lynch
Message:
Game #: 5x7 726 Game stats: 6/1/16.67% Difficulty: 5 I guess I was the first one to win this one, so it fits in this thread. But I don't think the other five coulda put too much time into it. James

Date: Sun Apr 15 16:05:19 2018
User: TitanicTony
Message:
This one is just barely worth mentioning: Congratulations! You Win Game #: 5x6 7307/5,... Game stats: 3/1/33.33%. I win a lot of games that have never been won before (because they have never been played before), but I don't bother to mention them here. This thread is already too long, imo.

Date: Sat Apr 21 14:29:55 2018
User: TNmountainman
Message:
Gee, was shocked to see that this one hadn't been beaten. First try, and didn't seem *that* hard: 11x0-5 #18100 Now 1/23.

Date: Sat Apr 21 16:12:28 2018
User: TNmountainman
Message:
Maybe I should switch this over to the "bragging" thread, but since it's a contiguous thing....... The very next game I won to make it 3/19. I thought it was harder than the un-won one. Then, two moderately difficult games followed by another tough one to make it 17/135. Then, thankfully, an easy one, then the next 7/56. And no, I have not eaten Cheerios *nor* stayed at a Holiday Inn.

Date: Sat Apr 21 16:27:16 2018
User: TitanicTony
Message:
Congratulations, TN. That gets you up to 7, currently 1 ahead of me.

Date: Wed Apr 25 05:06:29 2018
User: TitanicTony
Message:
Wow, this one was not THAT difficult, imo: Game #: 10x1 31192,...... Game stats: 5/1/20.00%,...... Difficulty: 9.

Date: Sat Apr 28 12:04:00 2018
User: TitanicTony
Message:
Yea, another tricky one bites the dust! Congratulations! You Win Game #: 10x1 13397,.... Game stats: 18/1/5.56%,.... Difficulty: 8.

Date: Mon May 7 11:09:02 2018
User: TitanicTony
Message:
Gosh, these difficult games keep coming, and coming! It's a good thing I knew it was winnable! Congratulations! You Win,...... Game W10x1, #27319/10,...... Game stats: 25/1/4.00%,...... Streak: 59.

Date: Mon May 7 18:51:20 2018
User: TitanicTonys_deckofcards
Message:
Hey, how about a little gratitude for me, too! These wouldn't be possible without my help.

Date: Sat May 12 17:17:03 2018
User: TitanicTony
Message:
This one was very difficult, and yes, I paused the game while I studied it: Congratulations! You Win Game #: 5x6 1282 Game stats: 4/1/25.00% Difficulty: 5 Elapsed: 4:16 Streak: 7

Date: Sun May 13 01:36:32 2018
User: TitanicTonys_deckofcards
Message:
He may have paused the game, but I didn't get a rest!

Date: Sun Jun 3 03:03:45 2018
User: ElGuapo
Message:
I wasn't the first to beat this one, but still exciting as I had a 44-game streak riding on it. 7x4 25537 Game stats: 181/3/1.66% Difficulty: 9 Elapsed: 5:52 Streak: 45 Moves: 94 Card moves: 260

Date: Mon Jun 4 15:06:53 2018
User: TitanicTony
Message:
I only mention this one because it is the one that wasjun lost earlier today, so I tried it as "custom", and it was a real nightmare!!! Possibly it is the hardest 10x1 I have ever seen!! Congratulations! You Win,...... Game #: 10x1 11527,...... Game stats: 2/1/50.00%, Difficulty: 10,...... Elapsed: 6:06,...... Streak: n/a,...... Today: n/a.

Date: Mon Jun 18 16:11:51 2018
User: TitanicTony
Message:
Well, this 10x1 was also very difficult! Congratulations! You Win,...... Game #: 10x1 19064,...... Game stats: 21/1/4.76%, Difficulty: 10,...... Elapsed: 4:28,...... Streak: 141,...... Today: 3.

Date: Mon Jun 18 16:17:02 2018
User: TitanicTony
Message:
This one, from roo, is also worth mentioning here, imo. Thread title: Masters Game #1 6x4 31707-7 Date: Sun Jun 17 22:22:42 2018 User: kangaroo Message: This game is winnable. Now 1/66.

Date: Sat Jun 23 17:51:25 2018
User: TitanicTony
Message:
And, this regular 10x1 was also very difficult! I almost gave up on it! Congratulations! You Win,...... Game #: 10x1 2985,...... Game stats: 6/1/16.67%, Difficulty: 6,...... Elapsed: 4:31,...... Streak: 11,...... Today: 1.

Date: Fri Jul 6 15:41:41 2018
User: ElGuapo
Message:
Congratulations! You Win Game #: 9x2 19608 Game stats: 7/1/14.29% Difficulty: 9 Elapsed: 3:51 Streak: 46

Date: Fri Jul 6 16:17:28 2018
User: TitanicTony
Message:
Excellent -- well done!!

Date: Sat Jul 21 04:43:31 2018
User: TitanicTony
Message:
Whew, w8x3 games don't come much more difficult than this one, imo! Congratulations! You Win,..... Game #: 8x3 27525/10,..... Game stats: 20/1/5.00%,..... Streak: 107.

Date: Sat Jul 21 05:08:17 2018
User: TitanicTony
Message:
I take it back. There are LOTS of difficult 8x3 games; I will list the 11 lowest win rates (at level 10): 6094,...... 158,.... 1,.... 0.63 5617 ,...... 145,.... 1,.... 0.69 17234,.... 135,.... 1,.... 0.74 31689,.... 130,.... 1,.... 0.77 23801,.... 124,.... 1,.... 0.81 22545,.... 490,.... 4,.... 0.82 2449 ,...... 115,.... 1,.... 0.87 28058,.... 113,.... 1,.... 0.88 16792,.... 107,.... 1,.... 0.93 3291,......... 99,.... 1,.... 1.01 13600,....... 97,.... 1,.... 1.03

Date: Tue Jul 24 19:33:18 2018
User: SixIron
Message:
Found an old picture I had saved where I was the first one to win this game. The stats on it have likely changed now, this was saved four or five years ago. Game #: 8x2 25692 Game stats: 15/1/6.67% Difficulty: 5 Elapsed: 3:46

Link: Picture of win

Date: Thu Jul 26 08:28:32 2018
User: joeygray
Message:
ibb.co is a ransomware site. Please don't click that link.

Date: Thu Jul 26 19:38:52 2018
User: SixIron
Message:
joeygray, You are either ill informed or reading old news which is no longer pertinent.

Date: Sat Jul 28 11:10:24 2018
User: TitanicTony
Message:
Yep, this was definitely a tough one!!! Congratulations! You Win;...... Game #: W4x10, 28477/10;...... Game stats: 25/1/4.00%;...... Streak: 65.

Date: Wed Aug 1 15:55:30 2018
User: TitanicTony
Message:
This game was much harder than the one mentioned above (Sat Jul 28 11:10:24 2018), imo: Congratulations! You Win;...... Game #: W5x8, 28690/10;...... Game stats: 1/1/100.00%;...... Streak: 72.

Date: Fri Aug 3 08:01:23 2018
User: TitanicTony
Message:
This w6x5 game was too difficult for me! I'm defeated, and only 2 games away from my all-time best of 67, grrrrrrr! With 6 columns and 5 freecells, there are 7776 (6**5 = 6*6*6*6*6 = 7776) different ways to fill the freecells without moving any cards between the columns! Throw in the moves between columns, and the number of different ways to start playing the hand is probably over 100,000! And only one (or maybe a few) of those will lead to a win. Sorry You Lose;..... Game #: 7368/10;..... Game stats: 1/0/0.00%;..... Elapsed: 3:26;..... Streak was: 65. I would like it if someone (free@last?) could tell me the first 10 moves that win this game. Thanks!

Date: Fri Aug 3 09:44:25 2018
User: TitanicTonys_deckofcards
Message:
Games like this are going to be the death of me!


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