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Subject: Never won winnables!


Date: Sat Jun 7 23:52:43 2025
User: Ellie2
Message:

WOW, what a happy surprise!

Game: 6x4 6402-5;.....  Game stats: 95/1/1.1%/2353;.....  Player Elo: xxxxx ▲ 4.895.


Date: Sun Jun 8 08:07:04 2025
User: roo
Message:

Took six replays to win what was a surprisingly easy solution!

Game:9x0 7736-5
Game stats:27/1/3.7%
Player Elo:n/a
Elapsed:4:38
Streak:n/a

Date: Wed Jun 18 12:15:35 2025
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Game: W6x5 27051-10;.....  Game stats: 30/1/3.3%/2281;.....  Player Elo: xxxx ▲ 4.123.


Date: Wed Jun 18 18:18:40 2025
User: rbw--3
Message:

this didn't seem too difficult:

8x3 7827-9Streak4:05Won7.7%1949113

Date: Wed Jun 25 17:39:24 2025
User: TitanicTony
Message:

This one was definitely difficult:

Game: W10x1 6014-9;.....  Game stats: 3/1/33.3%/1555;.....  Player Elo: xxxx ▲ 0.115.


Date: Fri Jun 27 10:18:07 2025
User: rbw--3
Message:

Second time the game had a below average ELO on a low % 8x3x9 recently:

8x3 11482-9Streak5:02Won7.1%1627114

Date: Fri Jun 27 12:32:30 2025
User: ElGuapo
Message:

Not below average actually, it IS the average. When you see that it typically means you're the first to play it in streak mode so it's being rated for the first time. 


Date: Fri Jun 27 12:49:23 2025
User: rbw--3
Message:

I see now. I guess it dropped. I think it was closer to 1650 recently. It was 1635 5 days ago. 

edit on that one 1635 was because I lost.


Date: Wed Jul 2 08:43:55 2025
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Game: W8x3 9403-10;.....  Game stats: 2/1/50%/1737;.....  Player Elo: xxxx ▲ 0.322.

Game: W8x3 31966-10;.....  Game stats: 3/1/33.3%/1775;.....  Player Elo: xxxx ▲ 0.392.


Date: Tue Jul 15 18:02:45 2025
User: Ellie2
Message:

Game: W7x4 11198-10;.....  Game stats: 2/1/50%/1704;.....  Player Elo: xxxxx ▲ 0.231.


Date: Wed Jul 16 08:11:40 2025
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Game: W7x4 16124-10;.....  Game stats: 2/1/50%/1704;.....  Player Elo: xxxx ▲ 0.247.


Date: Wed Jul 30 10:10:20 2025
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Only played once before, but it has been 2 weeks since my previous one:

Game: W4x10 21378-7;.....  Game stats: 2/1/50%/1715;.....  Player Elo: 2305.075 ▲ 0.260.


Date: Sat Aug 2 06:13:17 2025
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Oh dear, 3 level 10 players didn't get this one:

Game: 8x3 13824-10;.....  Game stats: 4/1/25%/1667;.....  Player Elo: 2308.055 ▲ 0.195.

[Or, maybe it was 1 player who lost it 3 times?]


Date: Tue Aug 5 16:09:49 2025
User: TitanicTony
Message:

This one was actually fairly easy, imo:

Game: 10x0 24736-5;.....  Game stats: 16/1/6.3%/2082;.....  Player Elo: 2315.218 ▲ 1.685.


Date: Thu Aug 14 08:31:35 2025
User: rbw--3
Message:
8x3 23192-9Streak5:00Won25%179314

Date: Fri Aug 22 06:49:24 2025
User: TitanicTony
Message:

WOW, I didn't think this one was THAT difficult:

Game: 10x0 19158-5;.....  Game stats: 17/1/5.9%/2107.696;.....  Player Elo: 2304.867 ▲ 1.964.

GOSH, 2-in-a-row!  This one also wasn't THAT difficult, imo:

Game: 10x0 21735-5;.....  Game stats: 31/1/3.2%/2182.348;.....  Player Elo: 2307.514 ▲ 2.647.


Date: Sat Aug 23 09:32:07 2025
User: NickV
Message:

I'm looking for some difficult or unwon games of the 4x8 variety. I found a couple listed here and tried them, and they were more ridiculously easy. Both were level five. 


Also, after playing here for decades, I only just recently started paying attention to scores.

I always play in level 12, but I've noticed that a great many level 12 games have extremely high percentage rate of wins. Some even 100%. How can a game that every player has won be rated as high difficulty?


Date: Sat Aug 23 20:51:55 2025
User: Kumquat-of-Conciliation
Message:

95% or so depends on the variant.  Plus..............levels (some of us call them "climates", for good reason - "weather" is what happens per day or week; "climate" is the overall general situation, relative to the rest of the world) are only a tiny part of the story.  Try some 10x1 climate 12s.  Or 8x3 climate 12s, if you want difficulty.  You've got a whole big world to explore.


Date: Sun Aug 24 16:30:06 2025
User: joeygray
Message:
Game:5x7 1812-6
Game stats:9/1/11.1%
Player Elo:1967.237  3.559


Aw c'mon, it wasn't as hard as all that.


Date: Wed Aug 27 16:58:11 2025
User: outskirts
Message:

9x2 28184-6 

Got it 2nd try, almost got it first try so when I saw 10-0 that was a challenge 

Now 11-1 and I challenge anyone to solve it. I only got it because I'm so good 😁

No it's not 11-1 it's still 10-0 but recent play shows I won on second try


Date: Thu Aug 28 20:23:04 2025
User: rbw--3
Message:
8x3 28136-9Streak8:03Won9.1%1922111

Date: Sat Aug 30 21:50:33 2025
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Game: 8x2 29449-5;.....  Game stats: 51/1/2%/2168.674;.....  Player Elo: 2293.984 ▲ 2.641.


Date: Sat Aug 30 22:06:54 2025
User: TitanicTonys_deckofcards
Message:

He's driven me *very* hard today!!


Date: Wed Sep 10 06:07:11 2025
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Game: 7x5 24417-8;.....  Game stats: 4/1/25%/1597.813;.....  Player Elo: 2291.486 ▲ 0.145.

This was my first game in the wwcx today!


Date: Thu Sep 18 19:14:20 2025
User: rbw--3
Message:

Probably a tournament only game. Without being rushed it seemed about average for 8x3-9:

8x3 13060-9Streak3:47Won7.7%1947113

Date: Mon Sep 22 10:24:47 2025
User: Ellie2
Message:

Game: 9x2 14580-9;.....  Game stats: 6/1/16.7%/1561;.....  Player Elo: 2284.336 ▲ 0.122.


Date: Tue Sep 23 12:22:06 2025
User: rbw--3
Message:

Tricky first few moves, but becomes easy after that:

8x3 7479-9Streak5:20Won4.3%2036123

Date: Wed Oct 8 18:24:17 2025
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Game: 6x5 10934-7;.....  Game stats: 6/1/16.7%/1718;.....  Player Elo: 2275.971 ▲ 0.31.

Very tricky!


Date: Fri Oct 17 15:46:56 2025
User: TNmountainmanMUDstains
Message:

Still unwon:

11x0 25378-5
Elapsed:12:24
Game stats:39/0/0%
-1.988

Date: Sat Oct 25 15:38:50 2025
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Game: 6x5 20299-8;.....  Game stats: 14/1/7.1%/2067;.....  Player Elo: 2286.994 ▲ 1.771.


Date: Tue Oct 28 13:53:44 2025
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Game: 7x3 22353-5;.....  Game stats: 45/1/2.2%/2136;.....  Player Elo: 2292.41 ▲ 2.339.

WOW, it was not THAT difficult, imo!


Date: Thu Oct 30 16:47:49 2025
User: Ellie2
Message:

WOW, what a nice game to win:

Game: 10x0 27829-5;.....  Game stats: 29/1/3.4%/2197;.....  Player Elo: 2263.727 ▲ 3.278.


Date: Sun Nov 2 14:56:25 2025
User: TNmountainman
Message:

Yeah, I'm sure it's winnable, but strongly recommend it be moved up to climate 9 or 10:

9x2 29485-9


Date: Sun Nov 2 16:21:16 2025
User: TNmountainman
Message:

P.S. - Sorry - it's already climate 9.  Meant climate 11 or 12.


Date: Mon Nov 3 11:37:26 2025
User: Ellie2
Message:

Game: 7x4 14832-7;.....  Game stats: 7/1/14.3%/1842;.....  Player Elo: 2267.619 ▲ 0.637.


Date: Sun Nov 9 15:13:57 2025
User: TitanicTony
Message:

This one was a surprise!

Game: 10x0 19218-5;.....  Game stats: 19/1/5.3%/2129;.....  Player Elo: 2300.254 ▲ 2.197.


Date: Sun Nov 9 15:29:10 2025
User: TNmountainman
Message:

Amazing how you could determine that the 3 previous games of that variant you drew were unwinnable in only 36,21, and 11 seconds - and then you nailed this difficult one in 4:11.  Your mind is lightning fast!


Date: Sun Nov 9 17:43:40 2025
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Silly, obviously the game is paused while I examine it!

Try looking at the time between games, if you are really THAT interested!?


Date: Sun Nov 9 19:22:38 2025
User: firenze
Message:

"examine it"


heh, heh.  Nice euphonism.


Date: Sun Nov 9 20:59:18 2025
User: TNmountainman
Message:

That, of course...........but what's the point in pausing it? I've just never gotten this fascination with time.  In tournaments, sure.  But just for regular play......I just don't understand that.


Date: Sun Nov 9 22:14:06 2025
User: BuzzClik
Message:

Is average time recorded, listed, and sortable?


Date: Sun Nov 9 23:42:30 2025
User: Kumquat-of-Conciliation
Message:

For any player, if one clicks on "Column Visibility", two choices are "Average Time", and "Total Time".  Similarly, when looking at the standings for any variant, those same options are available.  Seems like long ago, there was some discussion about that......but it was soon realized that some players were gaming the system by pausing games.  Thus it was irrelevant and discussion of same seemed to disappear.  At least that's this observer's memory.

Almost certainly........there's some self-aggrandizement angle, but it evadeth me 🤔.



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