Subject: old music
Date: Sun Feb 23 19:25:53 2014
User: ejchap
Message:If you want interesting old music talk
http://www.soulfuldetroit.com
The actual musicians post there.
Russell Thomkins Jr. of the Stylistics and the New Stylistics
You do get interesting facts.
But they get into minutia, such as arguing
about which Supreme sang which verse in the background
On that board I go by
edafan
Date: Mon Feb 24 10:35:43 2014
User: Dr.X
Message:Been thinking a lot about Zappa lately. I googled and of late he has had a zit bacteria named after him. Somehow I missed that news last week. But he's been on my mind. His kids names are Dweezil, Moon (Unit), Ahmet, and Diva. Moon dropped the "Unit" sometime after she got older.
And, OMGOSH his discography is huge. Bigger than I knew. So much to discover....
Date: Mon Feb 24 10:43:19 2014
User: Dr.X
Message:"During his lifetime, Zappa released 62 albums. Between 1994 and 2013, the Zappa Family Trust released 35 posthumous albums, making for a total of 97 albums."
Just reading the titles is pretty entertaining.
Dang, I was looking for a Zappa album I heard in a friend's vehicle. This won't be easy to track down.
Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Zappa_discography
Date: Wed Feb 26 12:13:37 2014
User: TNmountainman
Message:Did you see the clip Rachel Maddow played night before last of Zappa testifying in a Senate committee in 1985, to Florida Senator Paula Hawkins? It was about what toys his kids played with.
Here, I even found it for you. Go to the link below, and then scroll down about 2/3 - 3/4 of the way, and you'll see small boxes with video clips. You'll probably have to skip thru it/them to see the part with Hawkins - sorry. Maddow only played a short segment, but since it's Zappa, and word on the street is you live in Florida....
Link: Zappa 'discussion' with FL Sen. Paula Hawkins
Date: Wed Feb 26 12:21:27 2014
User: TNmountainman
Message:I just went through them, and the encounter with Hawkins is toward the end of the second clip. It's possible you might enjoy it all, however.
Date: Wed Feb 26 13:00:45 2014
User: Dr.X
Message:Thanks, I will get to it. Did you know that Zappa was a straight-arrow non-doping, non-drinking dude who was smarter than a whip?
Date: Wed Feb 26 13:32:39 2014
User: TNmountainman
Message:Uh, of course. "Brilliant" is an understatement, I'd say. Just like his contemporary rocker Ted Nugent. Except for the "brilliant" part, I guess... LOL.
Date: Thu Feb 27 10:52:44 2014
User: Dr.X
Message:from the "s.o.c." thread...
Date: Wed Feb 26 22:46:35 2014
User: ix
Message:
dr x
my favorite zappa album is probably "One Size Fits All", great album, the song Inca Roads could be my favorite song, you should listen to it from this link if you like zappa, its the first song. and if you have netflix, rent "Zappa plays Zappa" his kid is awesome, and with my stereo hooked up to the tv, it sounded great kind of cranked up.
Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRj2RbaYxwM
Date: Thu Feb 27 00:15:02 2014
User: hotnurse
Message:
My son and I met Dweezil at a guitar store in about 1988-89 and I got his autograph on an 8x10 B&W glossy which I still have. I had forgotten all about him until this thread.
Date: Thu Feb 27 09:46:14 2014
User: Dr.X
Message:
I watched Zappa plays Zappa a few years ago on Wolfgang's Vault before they went all "PAY US NOW".
BTW I was discussing him on the old music thread, not this one.
---And I will get to TN an ix links in a bit. Hungry.
Date: Thu Feb 27 11:33:54 2014
User: TNmountainman
Message:The ix link is very high quality audio for youtube. I actually listened to the entire album last night from his clip. Even though I *think* I have that album, I haven't listened to it in many a year.
I bet ix gets all the best Zappa stuff out where he is, living on that dental floss ranch in Montana.
Date: Thu Feb 27 12:25:48 2014
User: Dr.X
Message:"plantation"
(lol)
Date: Thu Feb 27 12:31:25 2014
User: TNmountainman
Message:Boy, I've having an off day, huh? To (hopefully) resurrect my freecell standing, I'll present this, as there are probably some here who don't know about the ranch/plantation:
Link: things about Montana besides ix
Date: Mon May 5 11:18:09 2014
User: TNmountainman
Message:This speaks for itself.
Link: Janis
Date: Mon May 5 13:26:47 2014
User: BuzzClik
Message:Speaking of Janis, I stumbled upon the roots of Big Brother's "Piece of My Heart." It is worth the search.
Date: Mon May 5 13:41:10 2014
User: TNmountainman
Message:I'm assuming you mean Big Mama's version? Yeah, it's pretty strong, too. In fact, I almost linked it following the Janis version, but just didn't want to be accused of you-know-what. Both are most excellent.
Date: Mon May 5 13:42:53 2014
User: TNmountainman
Message:Or maybe I'm wrong about what you meant, "upon further review"....
Date: Mon May 5 13:51:10 2014
User: TNmountainman
Message:I guess you mean about Aretha's sister first recording it?
(And so now here I am, doing you-know-just-what....)
Date: Sat Jun 14 02:38:37 2014
User: TNmountainman
Message:This one really rocks, although it lacks the live performance. It seems to me that perhaps it's a re-mastered original?
I had a bit of a surreal experience once upon a time that involved this song. On a golf course, of all things.
Link: same song as above, but much higher audio quality
Date: Sat Jun 14 10:07:27 2014
User: BuzzClik
Message:>>> TNmountainman: "I had a bit of a surreal experience once upon a time that involved this song. On a golf course, of all things."
Flashback?
Date: Sat Jun 14 10:50:03 2014
User: BuzzClik
Message:Back in the day, it was hard to get a following unless someone played your stuff on the radio. I heard these guys and liked them, but I became familiar with them as gospel singers. A friend of the family was absolutely addicted to gospel music, and I heard it all the time. These guys had early ties to Pete Seeger, Newport Folk Festivals, etc. So, the psych rock they dabbled in, though fantastic, was a big departure for them.
A good example of their early style was "I Got It" from their Shout album. On the album, The Chambers Brothers have a cut that starts with "I Got It" and segues into "Shout", the same "Shout" made famous by the Isley Brothers (and later took off due to its presence in Animal House).
Date: Sat Jun 14 12:43:34 2014
User: TNmountainman
Message:"Flashback?"
Reasonable guess, I guess, but no. One of those things where you had to be there to fully appreciate it. It was the absolute incongruity of the (normally peaceful) setting I was in, and hearing that album *blasting* from a high quality set of large speakers, set up outdoors, in a semi-ritzy place tucked into, and almost completely hidden by, a heavily-forested mini-valley along the 17th fairway, of a beautiful mountain-setting course here. One could hear it from 2 holes away (easily, even through dense trees and around substantial hills), and the quality of sound was so good that I truly didn't know if it was them live playing at some private party until I got quite close. That was at least 30-35 years ago, and yet that memory is still extremely vivid.
And yes, I've heard some of their gospel stuff, and it's very good. I know they were from the South (MS or AL, as I recall), and so they were steeped in it. Loves me some hot black gospel shoutin'.
Date: Sun Jun 22 10:55:38 2014
User: wildcard
Message:Question: Who recorded "Born to Run" before Springsteen?
Answer here>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9pQjDaxAKE
And did you know that The Hollies recorded 4th of July, Asbury Park (Sandy)?
Link: the aurora is rising behind us
Date: Sun Jun 22 11:57:37 2014
User: wildcard
Message:Early
Link: Early
Date: Mon Jun 30 23:19:51 2014
User: rocky77
Message:Here's some beer bottle music on an old song. It might be hard to look away if you start watching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkbZlautuUc&feature=kp
Date: Tue Jul 1 04:15:24 2014
User: TNmountainman
Message:This is pretty darn good. Recommend to watch full screen as it's high-def.
Alternate, also pretty-high-quality version, with Bowie and Brian May's hair sharing the spotlight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoDh_gHDvkk
Link: Queen doing Bowie's "Under Pressure"
Date: Tue Jul 1 10:50:59 2014
User: BuzzClik
Message:Not being an expert in all things Queen or Bowie, I could be wrong about all of this but ... it is my understanding that the song existed as a rough Queen demo called, "Feel Like.' Bowie was recording another song with the group and they brought him in on "Feel Like" that was then radically transformed into "Under Pressure." The iconic baseline is not part of the demo (see link below), but Bowie does not take credit for it.
Link: Queen demo for "Feel Like"
Date: Tue Jul 1 10:59:29 2014
User: hotnurse
Message:Awesome clip TN. Btw, imho, Freddy Mercury was, and will always be, the best male vocalist of the rock era. Meatloaf is a close second.
Thanks too for causing me to spend almost an hour watching other clips of Queen..........great memories!
Date: Tue Jul 1 12:40:22 2014
User: TNmountainman
Message:Interesting, Buzz. I didn't know that. I *did* take the time to briefly research authorship, and I saw Bowie listed twice, and one time credited to Bowie, May, Mercury and others, so now I can see how that could be.
And as I'm sure everyone knows, it was really Vanilla Ice who added the famous bass intro line. (And yes, of course I'm kidding, although I do credit him with genius for latching onto that hook and riding it for all it was worth, and then some.)
And like you, hotnurse, I also watched several other Queen clips (after watching "Ice Ice Baby", of course). I know I'm in a minority (of serious music fans) in liking that song, but hey, I think it grooves.
Date: Tue Jul 1 15:27:16 2014
User: hotnurse
Message:Ok, now I am on a Queen kick........check out the "Somebody to Love" video, over 39 mil views; the one by Intergalactic Journey (I can't seem to figure out ho to copy/paste things.
Also, Bohemian Rhapsody has over 98 mil. views...WOW!
I once read/heard that the reason that Freddy never got his teeth straightened was because he was afraid that by doing that it would change his vocal resonance.
Date: Tue Jul 1 17:35:14 2014
User: hotnurse
Message:TN, thanks for the tip on Ice Ice Baby...a tad corny but I loved it...great dance moves and cool rap plus the added bass line.
Date: Tue Jul 1 22:49:34 2014
User: hotnurse
Message:I had forgotten about Radio Ga Ga.........
Today has turned out to be a Queen-fest for me...lots of great memories of some of the best music ever.
Date: Thu Jul 3 11:48:22 2014
User: wildcard
Message:Still riding it for all it's worth, and then some.
Link: and then some
Date: Thu Jul 3 11:59:31 2014
User: wildcard
Message:I hear so many different songs in this song.
An old Springsteen song for the summer. Have a happy one.
Link: Racing in the Street
Date: Thu Jul 3 22:58:38 2014
User: hotnurse
Message:Ok, I know, but...if you have nothing to do and want 25 min of pure rock & roll, Queen of course, check out the youtube video "Queen Live Aid Full Video HQ". You won't see better stage presentation and entertainment anywhere, plus, if you notice the clock now and then, the concert actually started about 7pm...no 2 or 3 warm-up acts. Those were the days.
Date: Fri Jul 4 03:16:20 2014
User: TNmountainman
Message:Boy, they were feeling it that night, huh? (See this link.)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4420308.stm
But I'm not sure what you mean about no warm-up acts. They were either the 17th, or the 20th act on stage that day, depending on how one counts.
Lots and lots of interesting trivia about the shows if you read the whole description...
Link: 1985 Live Aid
Date: Fri Jul 4 05:17:50 2014
User: TNmountainman
Message:Not sure if this qualifies as "old music" or not; probably borderline. But anyway, I posted it a few years ago, but can't find it to bump, so consider this that bump. High quality audio and video. Powerful stuff.
Link: Bono gets passionate; the Edge gets all jangly
Date: Fri Jul 4 08:42:08 2014
User: hotnurse
Message:TN, I failed to read the entire article about Live Aid...I knew that there were gobs of other bands performing, but I actually *thought* that Queen started the show...no matter...what a fantastic epic event.
Date: Sat Jul 12 21:59:36 2014
User: wildcard
Message:Today I started listening to my old Live Aid tapes that I meticulously taped from the radio on cassettes on July 13, 1985. Tomorrow will be the 29th anniversary. The tapes still sound good.
Date: Sun Jul 13 09:08:00 2014
User: BuzzClik
Message:I stumbled across a very interesting album. When a recent release prompts me to watch (again) some movies and to chase down old music, I consider it good stuff.
Last year, American Laundromat Records released a double album as a tribute to Wes Anderson and his amazingly quirky movies. The original concept was that the album would be all Cat Stevens music, but they branched out. Most songs on the album are covers by somewhat obscure artists, but the music is really, really good; obscure artists, maybe, but quite talented. The album is called, "I Saved Latin!", a quote from Rushmore.
Wes Anderson has put out some pretty odd but thoroughly enjoyable movies including Bottle Rocket, Fantastic Mr. Fox, Life Aquatic, Royal Tennenbaums, and Rushmore. Anderson chooses his music very carefully, and the songs always play perfectly into the movie's plot and the mood of the moment.
Although this album is a new release, it belongs on this thread because essentially all the music is old, though the covers are new. This list with the new artists and original artists is on the link below. We've got really old Cat Stevens stuff, Bowie, Stones, Faces, Lennon, Kinks, The Velvet Underground, and on and on. The song list alone sent me on a journey of exploring old songs, composers, etc. For example, I knew "Here Comes My Baby" as a song from the Tremeloes, but Cat Stevens put it out when he was just a child (19 years old).
Anyway, enjoy -- this one is a keeper. You can stream some of the songs here:
http://www.oystermag.com/stream-i-saved-latin-a-tribute-to-wes-anderson
Link: Pitchfork Article on "I Saved Latin!"
Date: Tue Aug 19 13:14:54 2014
User: TNmountainman
Message:He just passed....at 96. What a legacy.
Date: Tue Aug 19 15:49:21 2014
User: BuzzClik
Message:I remember him as the announcer on Jeopardy when I was a kid.
Date: Wed Aug 20 01:52:10 2014
User: TNmountainman
Message:Hmmmmm.......stuff is missing, so I guess unfortunately(??) *I* missed something. Oh well...
[To those confused even more than myself, my preceding post above this one is concerning Don Pardo, who was being discussed back when this thread was active in July, and who just passed away.]
Date: Wed Aug 20 07:38:37 2014
User: BuzzClik
Message:and who were you talking about?
Date: Wed Aug 20 10:39:02 2014
User: TNmountainman
Message:I see the/my confusion now. I was typing a response to the last post on the first page of this thread. (see below) My bad.
Date: Thu Jan 23 11:29:07 2014
User: Dr.X
Message:
Pardo will be 96 in a month, and his first name is Dominick.
Date: Tue Aug 26 23:41:21 2014
User: Dr.Bombay
Message:PBS American Masters special on Jimi Hendrix re-aired tonight. Da*n, he was so good.
Date: Mon Nov 17 13:29:08 2014
User: TNmountainman
Message:We've all heard this countless times, but this one is pretty dramatic......with great audio quality.
Link: "Bolero" done up right
Date: Mon Nov 17 16:26:14 2014
User: hotnurse
Message:TN, good stuff there.
Date: Thu Jan 29 14:40:23 2015
User: TNmountainman
Message:For some reason, the T.A.M.I. show in Santa Monica seems to be in the news a lot lately. So...I present for your enjoyment, a couple of selections.
Many have often wondered where Snowguy got his slick dance moves. I think the evidence is pretty strong that's it's from one of these two performances.
First, James Brown. If one is time-challenged, maybe just watch the first song and then skip ahead to about 13:20. If one is *extrememly* time-challenged, just go to ~15:15.
[Disclaimer: Do not try to imitate at home.]
Link: Snowguy's main influence?
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