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Subject: More, different BIG science news


Date: Wed Nov 27 10:57:40 2019
User: Klepp
Message:
Legs, how gullible is Jason?

Link: These dudes know

Date: Wed Nov 27 11:33:18 2019
User: TNmountainman
Message:
Klepp, I had been thinking of posting that "news" (your last two posts about a possible 5th basic force), but have been too busy. I was gonna put it in the 'other' science thread (and think I will) since it has more to do with the make-up of the universe, etc. No offense whatsoever(!) - just that I think those reading that thread would find this interesting there. That said............this really is about 3-yr. old news, but for some reason has just started getting traction. Also.............I'll post there a more in-depth analysis of (the possibilities of) those results - from 3 years ago. But thanks!

Date: Wed Nov 27 11:42:42 2019
User: The_Interpreter
Message:
This is science that has little meaning for the future of our species. It is a search for pure information when we have an urgent need for science to provide practical applications in the fields of climate change, medicine, and human behavior.

Date: Wed Nov 27 11:44:40 2019
User: TNmountainman
Message:
Yeah, and you probably don't like Tang, either.

Date: Wed Nov 27 11:49:42 2019
User: The_Interpreter
Message:
Your credibility just disappeared if you like Tang, although a lack of credibility would qualify you to be President.

Date: Wed Nov 27 11:58:50 2019
User: TNmountainman
Message:
I didn't say I liked Tang. Once again, your interpretative abilities have run askew.

Date: Wed Nov 27 12:01:18 2019
User: The_Interpreter
Message:
Bringing up Tang as a negative, if I don't like it, makes it a positive for you. Ergo, you like it.

Date: Wed Nov 27 12:02:39 2019
User: ix
Message:
i stress to each one of my sixteen grandkids the importance of addressing climate change. they are hopeful that, in the future, one of their many children will find an answer to this baffling problem.

Date: Wed Nov 27 13:02:42 2019
User: BuzzClik
Message:
"... one of their many children will find an answer to this baffling problem." We know exactly how to solve climate change, but the solution is politically unacceptable. So, you are probably correct in stating that in might another two generations of study to devise an engineering solution to climate change once the window for implementing the obvious answer has passed.

Date: Wed Nov 27 14:08:32 2019
User: outskirts
Message:
The interpreter's interpretive abilities don't qualify him as a judge of credibility. Firenze has never been that perceptive.

Date: Wed Dec 4 12:28:51 2019
User: TNmountainman
Message:
Another one of those "who knows where this will lead" things. It could end up being even more important than Tang (and of course I state that tang-in-cheek). "...understanding how they work at a fundamental level could help researchers design combinations the world has never seen. With an almost infinite number of new combinations possible, these new molecules could have endless applications from more efficient energy production to new materials like mold-proof walls and even better building blocks for quantum computers."

Link: coldest reaction tracked

Date: Sat Jun 6 03:11:09 2020
User: TNmountainman
Message:
This *could* be gigantic news, altho we won't know for a while. A pretty amazing story: an new antibiotic compound (class) that bacteria can't evolve to resist. If you're a bacteria reading this, don't bother trying. Gosh let's hope this becomes a real thing on the market.

Link: "Irresistin"

Date: Sat Jun 6 11:21:51 2020
User: hotnurse
Message:
Gram negative infections, typical in some bladder infections, can be deadly. Just curious: how do they decide which big pharma gets to market this?

Date: Sat Jun 6 11:37:46 2020
User: TNmountainman
Message:
I dunno. Likely depends on whoever/however Princeton decides to partner. They've likely already got a partnership with at least one biopharma. See link below. They'll probably study offers, and will be smart enough to partner with somebody who's got antibiotics in their wheelhouse. Or...........less likely.........they could try and scale it up themselves: https://patents.princeton.edu/industry-entrepreneurs/princeton-start-ups One would guess that "FORGE Life Science" there would be the way to go, but that link is dead. I'd say that's almost certainly not the way they'll go (to do it themselves). It'll take quite a while to go thru all the hoops that will be necessary for this to get to market, and it'll be a gigantic project (assuming things go as hoped, which is *always* a big "if"). Thus more likely a big, established partner.

Link: Princeton U. bio-technology partnering

Date: Wed Jun 10 13:47:11 2020
User: Kaos
Message:
I thought this bit of science news was very interesting: Washington State University (WSU) and Pacific Northwest National Laboratory (PNNL) researchers have created a sodium-ion battery that holds as much energy and works as well as some commercial lithium-ion battery chemistries, making for a potentially viable battery technology out of abundant and cheap materials. Link to full article below.

Link: Batteries using sodium ions instead of lithium

Date: Thu Jun 11 09:05:43 2020
User: Katya
Message:
Kaos, that's really interesting. One thing they didn't say in the article is how stable the battery is in storage. Li+ batteries have a really long shelf life so I wonder how the Na+ batteries compare there.

Date: Thu Jun 11 10:48:32 2020
User: joeygray
Message:
We probably don’t care that much about shelf life for these, they’d be meant for cell phones and tablets and laptops that are always getting recharged anyway. I hope they’ve got a good handle on the overheat problem, though. No more exploding Samsungs, please!

Date: Thu Jun 11 10:54:28 2020
User: joeygray
Message:
I always thought anode composition was the problem with NA+, I guess I haven’t followed it closely. The sodium buildup at the cathode, seems like an electrolyte problem.

Date: Thu Jun 11 11:08:47 2020
User: joeygray
Message:
Cool, though, if it could be like my laser printer toner cartridge: just take it out and shake it a few times, and then presto! I get another couple dozen copies.

Date: Thu Jun 11 16:29:48 2020
User: Kaos
Message:
Seems like Bolivia and Chile have the easiest-to-extract sources of lithium and the Chinese have done a much better job of securing a supply of lithium from them than we have. It's not super rare but not abundant either. With the upcoming growth of electric vehicles set to increase demand, having the ability to make sodium-ion batteries could be big.

Link: Where our batteries come from

Date: Thu Jun 11 16:54:23 2020
User: TNmountainman
Message:
We're in a much bigger pickle (depending on who one believes/asks) as far as (ostensibly-)rare earth metals. They're really not terribly rare, but exist only in very small concentrations, and mining and separating them is quite the involved and mammoth task. China has taken us to the proverbial woodshed in that department.

Date: Thu Jun 11 18:55:21 2020
User: Katya
Message:
joeygray, I'm thinking of things like camera batteries where the camera often sits for long periods without use or charging and also those big packs of AA & AAA Li+ batteries that have expiration dates 5 or more years in the future. Will Na+ batteries last as long in situations like that.

Date: Fri Jul 10 13:42:28 2020
User: Klepp
Message:
"Scientists propose plan to determine if Planet Nine is a primordial black hole"--PHYS.ORG

Link: Grapefruit-size Black hole?

Date: Fri Jul 10 13:47:35 2020
User: Klepp
Message:
"Finding Planet Nine is like discovering a cousin living in the shed behind your home which you never knew about," said Loeb. LOL.

Date: Mon Nov 29 16:43:50 2021
User: TNmountainman
Message:
I don't even know what to say about this. Just 'wow'. To say the eventual implications could be beyond amazing (both good and bad) is an understatement.

Link: Is it live, or is it Memorex/Xenobot?

Date: Mon Nov 29 20:26:06 2021
User: Klepp
Message:
Kind of scary.

Date: Sun Dec 12 13:57:34 2021
User: HoldOnThere
Message:
Stratospheric geoengineering. It used to be a thing govts were doing. Might still be. Germany did a lot of study and experiments. Sulfates were the chemicals most widely used in these attempts to influence climate change. Harvard article https://geoengineering.environment.harvard.edu/geoengineering Rutgers pdf - Alan Robock http://climate.envsci.rutgers.edu/pdf/RobockStratAerosolGeo.pdf AGU Pubs Wiley Online Library https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2009GL039209 Are chemtrails really a thing? Of course they are. Facts, like JFK's assasination and the twin towers collapsing. But putting non-factual spins on factual events is the nonsense we have to deal with today. Get to the heart, to the point, get the facts straight. Don't cloud the issues, especially with mainstream "news" articles.

Date: Thu Dec 16 23:02:14 2021
User: Kaos
Message:
Apologies, I’m using my phone and copy/paste isn’t working but there’s a new article in Nature about the first true millipede (AKA 1000 legs) ever discovered. This little rascal clocked in with 1306 legs 🦵! The previous record holder in the millipede family sat at 750. That’s definitely way closer to millipede than centipede but still not over the bar. Our new discovery lives hundreds of feet underground in the land down under. I’m wondering if roo can comment about whether it is making the news in Oz or not

Date: Thu Dec 16 23:59:43 2021
User: TNmountainman
Message:
Saw that earlier, and almost posted it, but decided it didn't quite make "BIG" - but that's obviously just my opinion. Below I post the lay version of it. There really has been a recent explosion of discovering life in ridiculously deep underground places - and I don't mean caves. Just very deep in dirt or even rock. Part of the reason is that no one was looking in those places because, well, how *could* life be in solid rock? Many have said that the deep sea is the last unexplored frontier (on earth). But it actually may be under our feet.

Link: A millipede that lives down -- but up to, its name

Date: Fri Dec 17 06:28:21 2021
User: sgmsgmsgm
Message:
Yeah it made the news here. Needs to be renamed as a milli-tricentipede though.

Date: Sat Dec 18 14:03:53 2021
User: Klepp
Message:
>One million degree Stellar corona now (technologically) reached by Mankind...

Link: NASA Enters the Solar Atmosphere for the First Time

Date: Sat Dec 18 19:38:42 2021
User: TitanicTony
Message:
FANTASTIC, 🙂!!

Date: Tue Dec 21 01:13:31 2021
User: TNmountainman
Message:
They (the millipedes of yore) were not only "leggy", they could be big-ly.

Link: now the new *largest* (known) millipede

Date: Tue Dec 21 06:49:17 2021
User: Klepp
Message:
Cool...that reminds me of an insect I saw a few years ago...living adjacent to a nature area that can flood when rains are excessive, and fully drain when dry, at times when rains are plentiful, by late summer, the area here next my place can get somewhat infested with bugs, with a few of them being ludicrously overgrown, particularly dragonflies...I had to do a double-take when setting sight on one once whose wingspan was over a foot, possibly eighteen damn inches! Something looking straight out of an Amazonian Carboniferous period entomologist's laboratory...but wow, an eight foot long, hundred pound millipede! It probably feasted on small fish, even rodents...

Date: Tue Dec 21 12:32:22 2021
User: BuzzClik
Message:
If you possibly can, you should document that giant dragonfly! The largest flying insect (modern) on record is a mere 8 inches, and yours would dwarf that. If nothing else, find a nearby university with an entomology department and tell them where to look!

Link: biggest flying bug

Date: Tue Dec 21 12:36:10 2021
User: outskirts
Message:
The atlas moth isn't a flying insect? And I've seen big dragonflies but that sounds like a fish story.

Date: Tue Dec 21 12:45:30 2021
User: Klepp
Message:
When I first laid eyes upon the thing from about 15 yds. I thought it was a rover, buzzing around, taking pictures or something...but when it came near 5 yds. or so, I was flabbergasted, almost scared...it looked like something out of Land of the Lost...

Date: Tue Dec 21 12:52:15 2021
User: outskirts
Message:
The Atlas is not even the biggest! At over 9"

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacus_atlas

Date: Tue Dec 21 13:08:07 2021
User: BuzzClik
Message:
Indeed, outskirts! No idea why that article excluded moths. The wingspan of the atlas can be a full 12", making it the largest in terms of that metric. And, many of the larger moths are absolutely beautiful.

Date: Tue Dec 21 13:15:23 2021
User: outskirts
Message:
Lots of beautiful, and weird, moths. They are the orchids of the bug world.

Date: Tue Dec 21 17:31:40 2021
User: outskirts
Message:
This Luna lived right there on my kitchen window for several days in March of 2020! It was quite large! Can't recall ever seeing another.

Date: Tue Dec 21 20:13:55 2021
User: BuzzClik
Message:
Lovely! I have only two in my entire existence.

Date: Wed Dec 22 07:20:55 2021
User: sgmsgmsgm
Message:
This is an interesting development

Link: Heparin nasal spray

Date: Wed Dec 22 15:12:52 2021
User: BuzzClik
Message:
I am going to attempt to post a pic of North America's largest moth, the Cecropia. This one I have seen many, many times. It's as striking as it is enormous.

Date: Mon Dec 27 18:36:54 2021
User: HoldOnThere
Message:
In the late nineties a group of scientists computed the path of an asteroid, predicting it would strike the earth in 2022. A few weeks later a contradicting opinion was published, saying those scientists were incorrect. In the media the second prediction was accepted as valid. I read both stories. The difference between the two paths? Instead of striking the earth, the second predicted path had the asteroid passing harmlessly between the earth and the moon. The latest? - https://cneos.jpl.nasa.gov/pd/cs/pdc15/Briefing_Day2.pdf "Chance of Impact in 2022 is Now 43%}After nearly a full year of continuous tracking, the orbit of asteroid 2015 PDC is known more accurately}The new data did not eliminate the possibility of impact}IAWN now estimates the likelihood of impact on Sept. 3, 2022 at 43%; the Torino Scale rating is 5 (Orange)}No further updates are possible for 8 months}Several space-faring nations have already begun..." I really like this one... an asteroid with a moon - https://www.republicworld.com/technology-news/science/killer-asteroid-approaching-earth-in-2022-asteroid-hitting-earth.html In October 2022, a half-mile-wide asteroid called Didymos will approach Earth. The killer asteroid will be accompanied by its 500-foot-wide moon, which will be orbiting it. Given the huge size of Didymos and its moon, ground-based telescopes will be able to detect the asteroid very soon. In Depth | Didymos - NASA Solar System Exploration [Search domain solarsystem.nasa.gov] https://solarsystem.nasa.gov › asteroids-comets-and-meteors › asteroids › didymos › in-depth Didymos, the larger asteroid of the binary pair (also called Didymos A) is about a half mile (780 meters) in diameter. The moonlet, Dimorphos (Didymos B), is about 525 feet (160 meters) in diameter. As it orbits the Sun, the asteroid pair comes close to Earth's orbit, occasionally approaching relatively close to our planet.

Date: Thu Dec 30 07:06:41 2021
User: sgmsgmsgm
Message:
43% sounds like a pretty high probability to me. Am I reading that correctly?

Date: Thu Dec 30 07:57:15 2021
User: cellmate
Message:
you read correctly, but PDC 2015 is a fictional asteroid for a conference exercise so i wouldn't worry too much

Date: Thu Dec 30 13:48:44 2021
User: HoldOnThere
Message:
But that's the only fictional story there... interesting that they have an "EXERCISE" in the same year that a group of scientists called for an asteroid strike of the earth back in 1996... from Didymos Didymos is now in the neighborhood, and we are targeting it with an impact vehicle to see if we can affect the motion of the asteroid's moon, Dimorphos. Didymos is a frequent Near Earth Object... why would we mess with a frequent visitor that has been as close a .048 AU? That's what we get for having NASA mostly in the south... "Hey ya'll, watch this scheisse!"

Date: Thu Dec 30 14:15:34 2021
User: TNmountainman
Message:
I haven't read closely on this, but I thought the 'target' was the moon. The point of "playing with fire" is to test the technique for when we really *do* need to do something to prevent a collision. As I'm sure you know, sometimes these "visitors" can come into the neighborhood with fairly little warning. "Wouldn't be prudent" (quoting Dana Carvey mimicking bush 1) to have to send a rocket up with only a week's notice, hoping we knew what we were doing. Kinda like developing a 'space vaccine'. Kinda. I mean..........we've got trump's "space force" and all, but, well.....................

Date: Thu Dec 30 14:17:25 2021
User: BuzzClik
Message:
For sure. NASA is a bunch of hillbilly goofballs sitting around trying to keep from getting bored.


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