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Date: Tue Jan 11 14:37:23 2022
User: Dr.Bombay
Message:
Rats. This one took a few attempts Game: 7x3 1506-5 Game stats: 105/1/1% Elo: n/a Elapsed: 4:26
User: Dr.Bombay
Message:
Rats. This one took a few attempts Game: 7x3 1506-5 Game stats: 105/1/1% Elo: n/a Elapsed: 4:26
Date: Tue Jan 11 16:38:46 2022
User: Uberman
Message:
But still....less than 10 minutes total - congrats all the same!
User: Uberman
Message:
But still....less than 10 minutes total - congrats all the same!
Date: Wed Jan 12 16:07:31 2022
User: strassenbeuge
Message:
Game: 10x0 11231-5 Game stats: 20/1/5%/3849 Elo: 1963.958 ▲ 8.000 Elapsed: 43:06 Not so easy. Maybe elo a bit overestimated ;-)
User: strassenbeuge
Message:
Game: 10x0 11231-5 Game stats: 20/1/5%/3849 Elo: 1963.958 ▲ 8.000 Elapsed: 43:06 Not so easy. Maybe elo a bit overestimated ;-)
Date: Thu Jan 20 12:46:19 2022
User: redberet
Message:
This one took two tries, but it's a fine example of how you open a column not just open, could be the difference between win or loss. A tip of the hat if you can get this first try even knowing it's winnable. 12x0 15535-12
User: redberet
Message:
This one took two tries, but it's a fine example of how you open a column not just open, could be the difference between win or loss. A tip of the hat if you can get this first try even knowing it's winnable. 12x0 15535-12
Date: Fri Jan 21 23:05:06 2022
User: redberet
Message:
I tried out my new strategy of custom playing level 7 (if I can get a streak of 30 going, great). 1/21 22:58 12x0 24681-7 Streak 3:25 Won 7.7% 3848 1 13
User: redberet
Message:
I tried out my new strategy of custom playing level 7 (if I can get a streak of 30 going, great). 1/21 22:58 12x0 24681-7 Streak 3:25 Won 7.7% 3848 1 13
Date: Wed Feb 2 02:12:40 2022
User: Uberman
Message:
First time I've seen the full 8 points on display. First game of the day also, so I should probably just quit now before the red arrow comes back...
User: Uberman
Message:
First time I've seen the full 8 points on display. First game of the day also, so I should probably just quit now before the red arrow comes back...
Date: Wed Feb 2 02:23:46 2022
User: Klepp
Message:
23402-5 15 0 0.00 1960.834...same game 6x5 What you've done may be unprecedented, sir...beating a game when the game with ONE FEWER FREE CELL was also unbeaten...scary good.
User: Klepp
Message:
23402-5 15 0 0.00 1960.834...same game 6x5 What you've done may be unprecedented, sir...beating a game when the game with ONE FEWER FREE CELL was also unbeaten...scary good.
Date: Wed Feb 2 02:28:05 2022
User: Klepp
Message:
I may have slightly misrepresented what I think I saw viz a vis more/fewer free cell...but scary, if I actually see what I think I see...
User: Klepp
Message:
I may have slightly misrepresented what I think I saw viz a vis more/fewer free cell...but scary, if I actually see what I think I see...
Date: Wed Feb 2 02:32:58 2022
User: Klepp
Message:
..."slightly" meaning perfectly...i.e., with ONE MORE FREE CELL... It'd be cool to be that scary good...sadly, I'm only scary good enough to young, impressionable children, thus I need keep an exceedingly low profile publicly...
User: Klepp
Message:
..."slightly" meaning perfectly...i.e., with ONE MORE FREE CELL... It'd be cool to be that scary good...sadly, I'm only scary good enough to young, impressionable children, thus I need keep an exceedingly low profile publicly...
Date: Wed Feb 2 02:38:57 2022
User: Uberman
Message:
Wow, I never check the game stats for the equivalent 6x5s, so that's an eye-opener - I think 'scary lucky' might be more appropriate! I might have to replay it as I don't remember it being *that* difficult, I mean, I usually spend longer playing 20% games.
User: Uberman
Message:
Wow, I never check the game stats for the equivalent 6x5s, so that's an eye-opener - I think 'scary lucky' might be more appropriate! I might have to replay it as I don't remember it being *that* difficult, I mean, I usually spend longer playing 20% games.
Date: Wed Feb 2 02:47:24 2022
User: Uberman
Message:
Just replayed it as Anonymous and it's really not that hard - you just have to make one bold-ish move and everything works out. So, yeah, definitely lucky!
User: Uberman
Message:
Just replayed it as Anonymous and it's really not that hard - you just have to make one bold-ish move and everything works out. So, yeah, definitely lucky!
Date: Wed Feb 2 11:30:27 2022
User: TitanicTony
Message:
Yea, I also got a good one: You Win. ....... Game: W6x5 3809-7; Game stats: 45/1/2.2%/3975; ....... Player Elo: 2295.925 ▲ 8.000 !!! PS. Using a deck of cards REALLY helps a lot, 🙂!!
User: TitanicTony
Message:
Yea, I also got a good one: You Win. ....... Game: W6x5 3809-7; Game stats: 45/1/2.2%/3975; ....... Player Elo: 2295.925 ▲ 8.000 !!! PS. Using a deck of cards REALLY helps a lot, 🙂!!
Date: Wed Feb 2 22:35:27 2022
User: redberet
Message:
I've been losing a few winnables lately and these are like balm on the ache. Not quite the full Monty, but close. 2/2 22:29 12x0 483-7 Streak 4:23 Won 20% 3362 1 5
User: redberet
Message:
I've been losing a few winnables lately and these are like balm on the ache. Not quite the full Monty, but close. 2/2 22:29 12x0 483-7 Streak 4:23 Won 20% 3362 1 5
Date: Sat Feb 5 05:11:26 2022
User: TitanicTony
Message:
Game: 10x0 6214-5; ..... Game stats: 25/1/4%/4021; ..... Player Elo: 2302.566 ▲ 8.000!
User: TitanicTony
Message:
Game: 10x0 6214-5; ..... Game stats: 25/1/4%/4021; ..... Player Elo: 2302.566 ▲ 8.000!
Date: Sat Feb 5 06:53:31 2022
User: TitanicTony
Message:
Game: 10x0 12870-5; ..... Game stats: 16/1/6.3%. Unfortunately, this was my 2nd try!
User: TitanicTony
Message:
Game: 10x0 12870-5; ..... Game stats: 16/1/6.3%. Unfortunately, this was my 2nd try!
Date: Sat Feb 5 11:26:17 2022
User: TitanicTonys_deckofcards
Message:
Actually, it was, I think, the 22nd 'try'. He lost count there amongst moving me all around.
User: TitanicTonys_deckofcards
Message:
Actually, it was, I think, the 22nd 'try'. He lost count there amongst moving me all around.
Date: Sat Feb 5 11:39:46 2022
User: outskirts
Message:
This was my first game today. My second was 23/9 after I lost it.
User: outskirts
Message:
This was my first game today. My second was 23/9 after I lost it.
Date: Sun Feb 6 12:04:42 2022
User: TitanicTony
Message:
Hop is correct! 10x0 is giving great 'Elo' rewards: Game: 10x0 23192-5; ...... Game stats: 16/1/6.3%/3437; ...... Player Elo: 2317.420 ▲ 7.988! Quite a few of the never won 10x0 games are in fact winnable, if you're good enough (like Hop), or if you use cards (like me), 🙂!!
User: TitanicTony
Message:
Hop is correct! 10x0 is giving great 'Elo' rewards: Game: 10x0 23192-5; ...... Game stats: 16/1/6.3%/3437; ...... Player Elo: 2317.420 ▲ 7.988! Quite a few of the never won 10x0 games are in fact winnable, if you're good enough (like Hop), or if you use cards (like me), 🙂!!
Date: Mon Feb 7 23:01:29 2022
User: redberet
Message:
I almost got this on the first try. 2/7 22:48 10x0 8758-5 Not scored 9:33 Won 5% 3748 1 20
User: redberet
Message:
I almost got this on the first try. 2/7 22:48 10x0 8758-5 Not scored 9:33 Won 5% 3748 1 20
Date: Thu Feb 10 03:25:58 2022
User: sebcbien2
Message:
amazing there are still unwon w13x0 2/10 3:15 13x0 28920-9 Winnable 11:17 Won 1.6% 3856 1 62
User: sebcbien2
Message:
amazing there are still unwon w13x0 2/10 3:15 13x0 28920-9 Winnable 11:17 Won 1.6% 3856 1 62
Date: Fri Feb 11 14:07:39 2022
User: byronsmoot
Message:
You Win Game: 7x3 10399-5 Game stats: 28/1/3.6%/2084 Player Elo: 1832.361 ▲ 6.571 Elapsed: 3:18 Streak: 5 Today: 6
User: byronsmoot
Message:
You Win Game: 7x3 10399-5 Game stats: 28/1/3.6%/2084 Player Elo: 1832.361 ▲ 6.571 Elapsed: 3:18 Streak: 5 Today: 6
Date: Mon Feb 14 01:18:59 2022
User: redberet
Message:
Game: 12x0 29008-12 Game stats: 8/1/12.5%/3120 Elapsed: 5:57 Streak: 4
User: redberet
Message:
Game: 12x0 29008-12 Game stats: 8/1/12.5%/3120 Elapsed: 5:57 Streak: 4
Date: Mon Feb 14 16:52:04 2022
User: smelly_cootiefied_fence_post
Message:
Stinky game: 9x2 5117-8 Game stats: 17/1/5.9%/1973 First try.
User: smelly_cootiefied_fence_post
Message:
Stinky game: 9x2 5117-8 Game stats: 17/1/5.9%/1973 First try.
Date: Tue Feb 22 06:56:06 2022
User: TitanicTony
Message:
Since TN can't manage to be polite, I stopped posting here about 2 weeks ago, and will no longer be posting here in the future! Thanks to all those never won 10x0 games, my 'Elo' score is soaring, 🙂!!
User: TitanicTony
Message:
Since TN can't manage to be polite, I stopped posting here about 2 weeks ago, and will no longer be posting here in the future! Thanks to all those never won 10x0 games, my 'Elo' score is soaring, 🙂!!
Date: Tue Feb 22 08:07:58 2022
User: Klepp
Message:
Good Tony, I suspect you'll start a new "Never won winnables!" thread...but oh, the conundrum of which thread to spin dare I (by the grace of Providence) actually solve another never won winnable...
User: Klepp
Message:
Good Tony, I suspect you'll start a new "Never won winnables!" thread...but oh, the conundrum of which thread to spin dare I (by the grace of Providence) actually solve another never won winnable...
Date: Tue Feb 22 09:22:02 2022
User: redberet
Message:
Don't let nobody run you off your thread Tony.
User: redberet
Message:
Don't let nobody run you off your thread Tony.
Date: Thu Feb 24 13:45:27 2022
User: ThunderRoad
Message:
Not quite the first person to win this but still sweet: You Win Game: 6x4 9591-5 Game stats: 99/2/2%/2280 Player Elo: 1509.126 ▲ 7.915 Elapsed: 3:03 Streak: 2
User: ThunderRoad
Message:
Not quite the first person to win this but still sweet: You Win Game: 6x4 9591-5 Game stats: 99/2/2%/2280 Player Elo: 1509.126 ▲ 7.915 Elapsed: 3:03 Streak: 2
Date: Tue Mar 1 17:33:22 2022
User: sebcbien2
Message:
You Win 12x0 7460-7 3/1/33.3% Elo 1615 !! the award is not what I expected for this not easy one :-(
User: sebcbien2
Message:
You Win 12x0 7460-7 3/1/33.3% Elo 1615 !! the award is not what I expected for this not easy one :-(
Date: Wed Mar 2 15:57:23 2022
User: WRAC
Message:
Game: W6x5 17451-5 Game stats: 24/1/4.2%/2598 Player Elo: 2252.136 ▲ 7.110 Elapsed: 4:13 Streak: 6 At one point, having just discovered that I'd miscounted and seemingly put the game in an unwinnable position, I was asking myself why I should risk my Elo playing this variant. But after finding a narrow escape, I thought, yeah, I'll take the 7 points.
User: WRAC
Message:
Game: W6x5 17451-5 Game stats: 24/1/4.2%/2598 Player Elo: 2252.136 ▲ 7.110 Elapsed: 4:13 Streak: 6 At one point, having just discovered that I'd miscounted and seemingly put the game in an unwinnable position, I was asking myself why I should risk my Elo playing this variant. But after finding a narrow escape, I thought, yeah, I'll take the 7 points.
Date: Wed Mar 2 19:42:35 2022
User: Dr.Bombay
Message:
Interesting game WRAC. I jumped on what I thought was the correct opening sequence within a few seconds and it looked like a winner --- until it wasn't. Then, I tried what looked like the 2nd best choice to me and it started to look like a loser --- until it wasn't: Game: 6x5 17451-5 Game stats: 26/2/7.7%
User: Dr.Bombay
Message:
Interesting game WRAC. I jumped on what I thought was the correct opening sequence within a few seconds and it looked like a winner --- until it wasn't. Then, I tried what looked like the 2nd best choice to me and it started to look like a loser --- until it wasn't: Game: 6x5 17451-5 Game stats: 26/2/7.7%
Date: Wed Mar 2 20:41:14 2022
User: Dr.Bombay
Message:
And, I was hoping for a few more points on this one? Game: W7x4 13543-6 Game stats: 18/1/5.6%/1996 Player Elo: 1918.623 ▲ 4.994 Elapsed: 2:39
User: Dr.Bombay
Message:
And, I was hoping for a few more points on this one? Game: W7x4 13543-6 Game stats: 18/1/5.6%/1996 Player Elo: 1918.623 ▲ 4.994 Elapsed: 2:39
Date: Wed Mar 2 20:50:17 2022
User: WRAC
Message:
Nice job on both games, Dr.B! Those who take "winnable" as a synonym for "easy" do so at their own peril.
User: WRAC
Message:
Nice job on both games, Dr.B! Those who take "winnable" as a synonym for "easy" do so at their own peril.
Date: Sat Mar 5 16:12:01 2022
User: byronsmoot
Message:
You Win Game: 11x1 3057-8 Game stats: 5/1/20%/2501 Player Elo: 1967.118 ▲ 7.677 Elapsed: 2:27 Streak: 32 Today: 32
User: byronsmoot
Message:
You Win Game: 11x1 3057-8 Game stats: 5/1/20%/2501 Player Elo: 1967.118 ▲ 7.677 Elapsed: 2:27 Streak: 32 Today: 32
Date: Sat Mar 5 22:49:06 2022
User: rbw--3
Message:
You Win Game: 7x3 23998-5 Game stats: 45/1/2.2%/2145
User: rbw--3
Message:
You Win Game: 7x3 23998-5 Game stats: 45/1/2.2%/2145
Date: Fri Mar 11 06:49:31 2022
User: strassenbeuge
Message:
Game: 12x0 8205-5 Game stats: 113/1/0.9%/4066 Elapsed: 10:15 The game is from cellmate's site ( https://cellmate.neocities.org/). It was the last unsolved winnable in level 5. Strange game. The solution does not look that hard, and though I had the right idea early on, it lasted about 25 tries to beat the game. And afterwards I can't explain what was the specific problem to find the opening sequence (or to say it with other words: I don't know what to learn from this game).
User: strassenbeuge
Message:
Game: 12x0 8205-5 Game stats: 113/1/0.9%/4066 Elapsed: 10:15 The game is from cellmate's site ( https://cellmate.neocities.org/). It was the last unsolved winnable in level 5. Strange game. The solution does not look that hard, and though I had the right idea early on, it lasted about 25 tries to beat the game. And afterwards I can't explain what was the specific problem to find the opening sequence (or to say it with other words: I don't know what to learn from this game).
Date: Fri Mar 11 07:04:51 2022
User: sebcbien2
Message:
Great job ! I've tried it several times but I'm not in a good mood these days so I've planned to try it more seriously later
User: sebcbien2
Message:
Great job ! I've tried it several times but I'm not in a good mood these days so I've planned to try it more seriously later
Date: Fri Mar 11 07:47:18 2022
User: HopDiriDiriDattiriDittiriDom
Message:
Gosh, at third attempt: Game: 12x0 8205-5 Game stats: 119/2/1.7% Elapsed: 2:32
User: HopDiriDiriDattiriDittiriDom
Message:
Gosh, at third attempt: Game: 12x0 8205-5 Game stats: 119/2/1.7% Elapsed: 2:32
Date: Sat Mar 12 11:48:17 2022
User: strassenbeuge
Message:
Game: 7x4 22537-5 Game stats: 606/1/0.2%/2525 Elapsed: 7:28 Finally beaten. About 100 tries... Also from cellmate's site
User: strassenbeuge
Message:
Game: 7x4 22537-5 Game stats: 606/1/0.2%/2525 Elapsed: 7:28 Finally beaten. About 100 tries... Also from cellmate's site
Date: Sat Mar 12 15:37:25 2022
User: cellmate
Message:
i updated the page for 11x1-7 i usually put in updates once a day. sometimes small changes more often
Link: unwon solvable's
User: cellmate
Message:
i updated the page for 11x1-7 i usually put in updates once a day. sometimes small changes more often
Link: unwon solvable's
Date: Sat Mar 12 17:07:19 2022
User: strassenbeuge
Message:
another one from cellmate Game: 11x1 16882-7 Game stats: 15/1/6.7%/4005 Elapsed: 12:59
User: strassenbeuge
Message:
another one from cellmate Game: 11x1 16882-7 Game stats: 15/1/6.7%/4005 Elapsed: 12:59
Date: Sun Mar 13 11:40:41 2022
User: Klepp
Message:
16035-6 10X1 first of seven...odder solve than average
User: Klepp
Message:
16035-6 10X1 first of seven...odder solve than average
Date: Sun Mar 13 11:52:48 2022
User: Spud
Message:
Well done strassenbeuge on solving 7x4 22537-5, I probably had 200 attempts but failed. Now it's been solved and I'm completely out of ideas can I ask for a hint?
User: Spud
Message:
Well done strassenbeuge on solving 7x4 22537-5, I probably had 200 attempts but failed. Now it's been solved and I'm completely out of ideas can I ask for a hint?
Date: Sun Mar 13 15:19:40 2022
User: sebcbien2
Message:
Game: 11x1 26825-7 Game stats: 13/1/7.7% Elapsed: 3:43 4h try we are closing the +8 ELO opportunities but who close the -8 ones (when clearly unwinnable) ? 12x0 18726-7 Streak 4:56 Lost 0% 1593 0 1
User: sebcbien2
Message:
Game: 11x1 26825-7 Game stats: 13/1/7.7% Elapsed: 3:43 4h try we are closing the +8 ELO opportunities but who close the -8 ones (when clearly unwinnable) ? 12x0 18726-7 Streak 4:56 Lost 0% 1593 0 1
Date: Sun Mar 13 16:28:40 2022
User: strassenbeuge
Message:
Hi Spud, the highest mental obstacle for me was not to play the 3 of diamonds on the 4 of spades (eventually you have to - but much later than first thought). After that, there is some room to optimize the distribution of the cards, so that you can open column 2.
User: strassenbeuge
Message:
Hi Spud, the highest mental obstacle for me was not to play the 3 of diamonds on the 4 of spades (eventually you have to - but much later than first thought). After that, there is some room to optimize the distribution of the cards, so that you can open column 2.
Date: Mon Mar 14 12:22:07 2022
User: Spud
Message:
Thanks, another 18 attempts but I finally got it. That's my new number 1 most difficult deal I've come across.
User: Spud
Message:
Thanks, another 18 attempts but I finally got it. That's my new number 1 most difficult deal I've come across.
Date: Mon Mar 14 12:35:16 2022
User: strassenbeuge
Message:
Spud, I agree. Maybe 6x6 19867-5 is in the same league.
User: strassenbeuge
Message:
Spud, I agree. Maybe 6x6 19867-5 is in the same league.
Date: Wed Mar 16 02:51:22 2022
User: TNmountainmanMUDstains
Message:
Didn't even seem that hard - just moving columns around: W4x10 6435-5 Game stats: 5/1/20%/1746
User: TNmountainmanMUDstains
Message:
Didn't even seem that hard - just moving columns around: W4x10 6435-5 Game stats: 5/1/20%/1746
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