Subject: planefinder
Date: Thu Aug 3 21:57:34 2017
User: ix
Message:technology is amazing, its fun to watch late at night and see how many planes are fedex and ups
Link: http://planefinder.net/
Date: Tue Aug 8 09:23:41 2017
User: Snowguy
Message:The sheer number in the skies is truly astonishing. And all that carbon-based fuel being burnt!
Date: Tue Aug 8 15:03:49 2017
User: ix
Message:it seems to be okay to fly over the western edge of libya, but you'll never see a flight directly over it. clicking on a flight will show its flight path, which is kind of fun. i've tried to watch flights land at bozeman, by zooming in as they get closer and closer, but the program seems to screw up at landing itself. i can see the flight path line right up to the runway but it then keeps going until seemingly hitting the mountains past the airport. maybe the planes are turning off their transceivers upon landing or something and the site is just extrapolating. i can at least tell that the big planes land at a speed just under 200 mph.
Date: Tue Aug 8 23:17:44 2017
User: ix
Message:currently 2 balloons over northern nevada at 62,000. no info, i guess weather balloons?
Date: Wed Aug 9 04:27:27 2017
User: TitanicTony
Message:Facinating! I had never heard of "Project Loon" before!
Hey TN, maybe this should go in one of the Science Threads?
Date: Wed Aug 9 11:42:31 2017
User: TNmountainman
Message:Hmmm.......well, I don't think I'll post it there. IMO, it's been well-known for several years to people who follow this stuff (and I think it has great potential for the situations for which it's designed). And furthermore, to me, it's more of an engineering 'problem' than something at the forefront of new knowledge. After all, the two main science threads either have "BIG", or "Big, big, BIG" in the title of them, and I just don't think Project Loon fits. BUT.....that's just my opinion. Anyone can post if there if they so desire. But thanks for the idea.
Date: Wed Aug 9 12:01:47 2017
User: TitanicTony
Message:OK, then neither will I. And, tks for the additional info!
Date: Wed Aug 9 16:41:13 2017
User: deadwing
Message:seen planes from London Cancun Frankfort Rome - and I live in middle of USA. 2 of these planes were not even stopping in US - the German plane was going to Mexico and the Mexico plane going to Canada - weird. They flew almost directly over me.
Date: Wed Aug 9 18:21:54 2017
User: The_Interpreter
Message:earth globe.
shortest distance.
Date: Thu Aug 10 20:19:27 2017
User: ix
Message:just found out that planes flying at odd thousands of feet are heading east, even thousands of feet are heading west. it checks out!
Date: Fri Aug 11 02:38:36 2017
User: TNmountainman
Message:So they never come down to land?! Nor go north, south, or "diagonally"!? Fascinating! Who would have thunk?
Date: Fri Aug 11 20:31:59 2017
User: ix
Message:at first i was confused by your comment, but then realized i was trying to analyze the logic of someone from tennessee. but thanx for taking time out from whittling them doodads.
Date: Sat Aug 12 00:48:12 2017
User: jamesblackburn-lynch
Message:Plane flights are divided into 0 degrees to 179 degrees (called "East") and 180 to 359 (called "west"). So...technically, if a flight were somehow truly exactly North or South that would make it "West."
The above is mostly true with complications due to different laws in a few areas of the world and some rules about very high flying planes.
The other thing I learned in investigating this is there is a thing called Flight Level which is a "height" but based on pressure. So it's not a true height but reflects the way heights are calculated on planes as pressure variation from the ground to the plane. Because ground levels all over the world vary a great deal in atmospheric pressure, if we just went by the altimeters on planes, two different readings could actually correspond to the same height. So all,the above heights are actually Flight Levels. FL290 means the plane's Flight Level is 29000 feet...and therefore going East. But it's not really 29000 feet!
Crazy.
Date: Sat Aug 12 13:51:33 2017
User: ix
Message:i was wondering about the heights, when the planes land in montana their height shows zero, which obviously isn't correct.
Date: Sat Aug 12 16:26:38 2017
User: The_Interpreter
Message:Each plane has a very, very, very long expandable/retractable tape measure in its tail. . . . . . . . .
Date: Sat Aug 12 16:30:17 2017
User: TNmountainman
Message:And so how are the chemtrails involved in all this?
(Yes, he actually wrote that.) Inquiring minds want to know. Us whittlers are 'sharp' like that.
Date: Sat Aug 12 17:19:09 2017
User: ix
Message:i'm fine with organic chemtrails, its the gmo ones that worry me.
Date: Sat Aug 12 17:23:01 2017
User: TNmountainman
Message:Wow. Double jeopardy. Never knew 'they' had evolved their sinister plots to that extent. I would have expected that The_Revelator would have clued us in on that - unless..........................*he's* one of 'them'!
Date: Sat Aug 12 17:51:40 2017
User: ix
Message:just got a text from jenny mccarthy, she's says not to worry about chemtrails from even thousands of feet, they are organic and contain no polio vaccine. the west wins again!
Date: Sat Aug 12 18:57:11 2017
User: jamesblackburn-lynch
Message:When I landed in Seattle recently I was watching the flight on the little tv screen on the back of the chair in front of me. It said we were about 35 feet high when we landed. When we landed in Salt Lake City it was thousands of feet when landed. So, at least, I think the planes themselves have that data as measured by local sea level, Seattle being on the water and Salt Lake being in the mountains.
My guess is that planefinder.net 0s them out on their own after they get the data. If you read the FAQ you find out they lose the data from most planes when they get close to the airport. They probably just jump the conclusion that it landed and call that 0.
Also, curiously I was looking at SDF (Louisville's airport) last night and saw a flight from Osaka to Anchorage near the airport and flying a few thousand feet. I was like, what in the world...
I looked at it more, figured out it was a UPS flight, that it runs twice a day, but not at that time. And the flight path shown started at Anchorage. It was just getting crazier and crazier.
And then I looked again a few minutes later, and, poof, no plane.
Data errors. Leading to phantom planes.
Fun.
Date: Sat Aug 12 20:12:00 2017
User: ix
Message:>> If you read the FAQ you find out they lose the data from most planes when they get close to the airport.
ah! i hadn't seen that and it explains an earlier comment by me. bummer, i really wanted to watch them land and taxi instead of flying into nearby mountains.
Date: Sun Jun 21 07:00:46 2020
User: ix
Message:so i zoomed in and most of them seem to be gliders, doing less than 100 kts. i guess gliding is real popular in germany.
Date: Sun Jun 21 13:23:24 2020
User: TNmountainman
Message:Wow. That's an *amazing* pic, tho.
Date: Sun Jun 21 14:20:41 2020
User: hotnurse
Message:Holy cow! You can even see what kind of plane (basically) each icon is.
Having you ever tried doing that over North and South Korea?
Date: Sun Jun 21 16:27:48 2020
User: ix
Message:hottie, i guess there are international flights into north korea, but i've only seen traffic over south korea and none over north korea. it's really amazing to compare traffic over africa, europe, asia and the u.s., when you think about how humans have moved around the planet over the last few hundred thousand years, with the u.s. being a late comer to the game.
Link: https://planefinder.net/
Date: Thu May 4 11:17:40 2023
User: TNmountainman
Message:In light of recent events......................note ix's post above on Tue Aug 8 23:17:44 2017.
Date: Thu May 4 12:28:41 2023
User: olblue
Message:That's amazing, thanks TN! I would love to see that collection.
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