Subject: Rarely won winnables.

Date: Sun Oct 16 12:35:41 2022
User: TitanicTony
Message:
I have thought about starting a thread for "rarely won winnables" for a long time, and this game convinced me to do it:
Game: W8x3 13600-10; ..... Game stats: 107/3/2.8%/2239; ..... Player Elo: 2320.412 ▲ 3.151; ..... Streak: 193.

Date: Sun Oct 16 13:09:31 2022
User: Klepp
Message:
You trail blaze as well as anyone, TT.

Date: Sun Oct 16 13:14:01 2022
User: JackK2016
Message:
That's a darn good streak on that variant.

Date: Sun Oct 16 14:01:57 2022
User: Narrows
Message:
We will never know how many loses were not counted.

Date: Sun Oct 16 14:17:59 2022
User: TitanicTonys_deckofcards
Message:
I'm not good at math (you'd think I would be, with all the numbers all over me), but it was a WHOLE lot. But I'm kind of used to it.

Date: Tue Oct 18 15:18:30 2022
User: WRAC
Message:
Every once in a while, I manage to summon up a little patience.

Game: 9x2 8029-11
Game stats: 199/2/1%/2366
Player Elo: 2124.955 ▲ 6.498
Elapsed: 20:41
Streak: 4

Date: Wed Oct 19 05:36:27 2022
User: TitanicTony
Message:
WOW, WRAC, that's VERY impressive, 🙂!!

Date: Thu Oct 20 19:30:17 2022
User: Dr.Bombay
Message:
Hmm, I thought I'd posted about WRAC's game (as Kaos) but I don't see it anymore. I gave 9x2 8029-11 several attempts but never got close. There must be some sequence where you burn the FC's and scramble through to recover as a Zany Zero. Not sure I've ever looked at a game for that long but here is one that is at least half-way there:

Game: 10x1 28907-5
Game stats: 97/7/7.2%/1954
Player Elo: 1892.792 ▲ 4.808
Elapsed: 9:37
Streak: 9

Scary to think that the Elo rating for this game thinks I should win similar deals half of the attempts.

Date: Wed Oct 26 17:41:49 2022
User: Dr.Bombay
Message:
Surprised to see the rating on this deal:

Game: 8x2 13781-5
Game stats: 49/3/6.1%/2018
Player Elo: 1833.847 ▲ 6.050
Elapsed: 1:51
Streak: 4

Date: Mon Oct 31 16:25:11 2022
User: Dr.Bombay
Message:
Here's another one:

Game: 8x3 23027-5
Game stats: 125/9/7.2%/1969
Player Elo: 1824.949 ▲ 5.680
Elapsed: 3:37
Streak: 6

Date: Thu Nov 3 17:32:58 2022
User: TitanicTony
Message:
Game: 9x0 26336-5; ..... Game stats: 39/3/7.7%/2120; ..... Player Elo: 2315.555 ▲ 1.991.

Date: Tue Nov 22 08:28:18 2022
User: TitanicTony
Message:
I'm not sure that this one qualifies, but I will post it anyway:
Game: W6x5 21841-8; .... Game stats: 173/29/16.8%/1904; .... Player Elo: 2336.127 ▲ 0.617.

Date: Wed Nov 23 17:31:36 2022
User: Klepp
Message:
Game: W10x1 30662-10

Beat it on your first attempt TT, no cards (as I did).

Game stats: 111/4/3.6%/2150

Up for the challenge? (This is directed solely at TT)...

No cards, otherwise ***k yourself.

Took me twenty minutes...you're worth your Elo if you do it in <five.

(Sorry...sometimes I'm just a smartazz...

Date: Wed Nov 23 17:38:40 2022
User: TitanicTony
Message:
@Klepp, congratulations on such a good win!
Sorry, I'm a bit busy right now. We are going away this weekend. Maybe some other time?

Date: Wed Nov 23 18:09:12 2022
User: TitanicTony
Message:
This one is also not exactly "rarely won", but it was my best 'Elo' gain of the day.
Game stats: 70/12/17.1%/1982; .... Player Elo: 2338.988 ▲ 0.917.

Date: Thu Nov 24 10:49:03 2022
User: redberet
Message:
It started off easy, then it got tough. Nice little nugget.
Game: 7x5 5-11
Game stats: 31/3/9.7%/1993
Player Elo: 1991.870 ▲ 4.112
Elapsed: 10:08

Date: Thu Nov 24 22:04:31 2022
User: WRAC
Message:
This is one of those games that you take your first look at it and think, ya know, this just might be winnable, but it's gonna be a struggle...

It turned out it had been won a few times before, but I was still very pleased to wiggle my way through it... especially after being all but convinced it was lost at the 10-minute mark.

Game: 9x2 30893-10
Game stats: 430/15/3.5%/2171
Player Elo: 2162.387 ▲ 4.196
Elapsed: 15:10
Streak: 9

Looks like this game was in a tournament (or 2) where multiple players made multiple attempts. I'd love to know how many of the other 14 wins were first attempts - too bad that information isn't stored (at least not until recently).

Date: Sat Nov 26 02:58:34 2022
User: sebcbien2
Message:
WRAC, on the past year, only you played it
freecell_unzipped/20211208.csv:1638991451,WRAC,9,2,10,30893,L,0,602
freecell_unzipped/20221124.csv:1669344680,WRAC,9,2,10,30893,W,0,910

Date: Sat Nov 26 02:58:42 2022
User: sebcbien2
Message:
I had no idea were to start , I choose the most promising
Game: 8x2 16126-5
Game stats: 45/2/4.4%/2008
Player Elo: 1938.615 ▲ 4.904
Elapsed: 10:24
Streak: 3

Date: Sat Nov 26 07:47:14 2022
User: Ellie2
Message:
Game stats: 44/2/4.5%/2117

Date: Sat Nov 26 11:03:17 2022
User: smelly_cootiefied_fence_post
Message:
8x2 12742-5
91/4/4.4%/2055

First try, but it was pretty stinky. Yet fun.

Date: Sat Nov 26 11:55:43 2022
User: smelly_cootiefied_fence_post
Message:
8x2 19704-5
49/3/6.1%/1981

First try, and also quite putrid.

As joey has said many, many times, sure would be nice to know how many of these like this were won on first try, vs. just beaten into submission in a tournament or such.

Date: Sat Nov 26 18:04:09 2022
User: Klepp
Message:
8x2 11302-5

first of 42


aw shit, this shoulda gone over there [RASPBERRY]...

Date: Tue Nov 29 19:13:27 2022
User: TitanicTony
Message:
This was a tough game, imo!
Game: W6x5 28763-10; .... Game stats: 15/2/13.3%/2094; .... Player Elo: 2348.030 ▲ 1.530.

Date: Fri Dec 2 06:47:38 2022
User: TitanicTony
Message:
WOW, my 1st game of the day:
Game: W6x5 18315-10; .... Game stats: 136/2/1.5%/2363; .... Player Elo: 2355.081 ▲ 4.193.
Interestingly, the game has a higher Elo rating than me.

Date: Fri Dec 2 08:01:29 2022
User: Narrows
Message:
And you did it in under five minutes. Incredible!

Date: Fri Dec 2 08:08:52 2022
User: TitanicTony
Message:
No, silly, I paused the game while I dealt (and redealt) the cards. It took me nearly 2 hours.

Date: Fri Dec 2 09:45:20 2022
User: Narrows
Message:
Since you do not record loses, can we assume that the players ahead of you in the elo rankings also do not record loses? Nobody can be better than somebody who doesn't lose, right?

Date: Fri Dec 2 10:15:28 2022
User: TitanicTony
Message:
Well, apparently wasjun hasn't lost a game since last May (judging by his Elo graph).
"Somebody who doesn't lose" can be beaten if it because they aren't playing. Apparently the Elo list only shows players who have a current streak, which is kind of strange, imo.

Date: Fri Dec 2 13:09:39 2022
User: TitanicTonys_deckofcards
Message:
I think you all know this already, but anytime my master says "I", "my", or "me"..........................he means "we", "our", and "us".

Date: Fri Dec 2 15:01:50 2022
User: Narrows
Message:
Is it my understanding that you don't get paid for your labors? That Titanic Tony owns you ace to deuce and can do anything he wants with you, even have you altered to be a euchre deck?

Date: Sat Dec 3 04:08:13 2022
User: Klepp
Message:
Likely still awaiting that glorious pinochle meld...(would be fair to allow it once in a blue moon at least, wouldn't it?)...

Date: Sat Dec 3 11:04:18 2022
User: outskirts
Message:
Tony you do know there are two different TTDOC. TN and firenze, who is also Narrows.

Date: Sat Dec 3 14:01:58 2022
User: firenze
Message:
To be clear: I am not TN, nor will I ever be him or any of his variants (thank God, that man's posts are too long).

However, I am:

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As if anybody but the sanctimonious outskirts cares.

Date: Sat Dec 3 14:12:44 2022
User: Kumquat-of-Conciliation
Message:
Are you trying to make some kind of point along the line of: "Don't kill the messenger; pay attention to the message."?
I.e., that Tony is a cheater, no matter who it is that's saying it?

P.S. - nice joke about the euchre deck. One of my associates had intended to 'play that card', but didn't get around to it before you did.

Date: Sat Dec 3 15:07:58 2022
User: outskirts
Message:
Don't trust him for a second, Tony.

Date: Sat Dec 3 15:34:05 2022
User: redberet
Message:
Jimmy Doolittle is kind of taking things too far don't you think. An American hero, relegated to ignomy.

Date: Sat Dec 3 15:37:07 2022
User: firenzes_mother
Message:
Did anybody notice that I am not on that list?

Date: Sat Dec 3 15:39:38 2022
User: firenze
Message:
You're on another list. They will come for you shortly.

Date: Sat Dec 3 16:04:24 2022
User: redberet
Message:
You shouldn't treat your ma like that. You do have power of attorney, don't you?

Date: Sat Dec 3 16:23:34 2022
User: firenzes_mother
Message:
He tried to get one, but I told the judge about his incarceration for that unfortunate incident in the small person nudist colony.

Date: Sat Dec 3 16:39:04 2022
User: firenze
Message:
Geez, mom, they kept getting in my hair.

Date: Sat Dec 3 22:30:16 2022
User: FilthyMcNasty
Message:
Small person nudist colony? One of my favorites!

Date: Sun Dec 4 05:42:54 2022
User: outskirts
Message:
I could copy that list, but there's not enough paste to keep it, renzo. Festering_Butt ate it.

Date: Sun Dec 4 07:07:59 2022
User: TitanicTony
Message:
This must be one of the all time worst hijacks of a thread.
AND, TN has definitely lost this argument!!!!
(THAT ought to get a pithy response.)

Maybe I won't post here any more. Maybe I'll start a new thread for "seldom won winables"?

Thanks, outskirts. I was assuming that "narrows" was also TN.

Date: Sun Dec 4 07:39:56 2022
User: outskirts
Message:
Buzz likes to put on his Filthy strapon and fantasize about being with fir's mom, who only has one tooth but actually is firenze. Disgusting but true.

Date: Sun Dec 4 07:51:15 2022
User: firenzes_mother
Message:
Hey, I brush that tooth every day.

All the way around, too.

Date: Sun Dec 4 10:51:07 2022
User: LunaQueenOfTheMothPeople
Message:
Date: Sun Dec 4 07:39:56 2022
User: outskirts
Message: "Buzz likes to put on his Filthy strapon and fantasize about being with fir's mom, who only has one tooth but actually is firenze. Disgusting but true."

That's an impressive quantity of casual intolerance packed efficiently into very few words. Well done!

Date: Sun Dec 4 11:02:12 2022
User: outskirts
Message:
Sorry buzz (not) - it was meant to be informative for Tony. (And everyone else). They should know what they're dealing with.

What's your excuse?

Date: Sun Dec 4 11:57:28 2022
User: BuzzClik
Message:
Her highness makes a good point. Your label of "disgusting" is telling. This may explain why so many of your favorite TV shows are from the early 1960s.

Ageism, homophobia, transphobia. Ah, the good old days.