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Subject: Baseball

Date: Wed Oct 1 00:57:42 2014
User: joeygray
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That might have been the best baseball game ever played.

Date: Wed Oct 1 10:08:02 2014
User: TNmountainman
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Well, I wouldn't go that far (see WS game 6, 1975; and the incredible Twins/Braves WS game 7 in 1991 {in which the entire series was phenomenal, and which gets my vote even over the '75 game} for at least two examples), but it ranks right up there.... I virtually never watch baseball 'til the postseason since the strikes and steroids soiled the game, but I'm so glad I caught this one. Instant classic, as they say.

Date: Wed Oct 1 10:21:26 2014
User: TNmountainman
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Well, I wouldn't go that far (see WS game 6, 1975; and the incredible Twins/Braves WS game 7 in 1991 {in which the entire series was phenomenal, and which gets my vote even over the '75 game} for at least two examples), but it ranks right up there.... I virtually never watch baseball 'til the postseason since the strikes and steroids soiled the game, but I'm so glad I caught this one. Instant classic, as they say.

Date: Wed Oct 1 10:33:58 2014
User: TNmountainman
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Well, I wouldn't go that far (see WS game 6, 1975; and the incredible Twins/Braves WS game 7 in 1991 {in which the entire series was phenomenal, and which gets my vote even over the '75 game} for at least two examples), but it ranks right up there.... I virtually never watch baseball 'til the postseason since the strikes and steroids soiled the game, but I'm so glad I caught this one. Instant classic, as they say.

Date: Wed Oct 1 11:08:57 2014
User: joeygray
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Well, I was thinking about the Fisk game, which also had a big late comeback, and the Morris game which was a nail biter all the way through and a 7th game as well, when I posted. This game had 4 comebacks! It had speed vs power, it had bum managerial decision, it had rookie pitcher coming through and rookie pitcher not coming through, it had win or go home both ways just like a game 7, it had walk off, it had game of inches. The only aspect it falls short is they were WS games, so bigger import. But still playoffs. Maybe it doesn't beat those games or the Kirk Gibson game either but it doesn't take a back seat to them.

Date: Wed Oct 1 12:43:07 2014
User: TNmountainman
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Yeah, I think the WS factor elevates those others. IF one could divorce that aspect (but one can't, however), then certainly a great case could be made - which you did. And even though I'm not a fan of Kansas City (the town, not the team), it's also a great 'feel good' story for them to be in the mix after such a long absence. But I'll reiterate what I said last year (I think), which is that these 1-game "playoffs" do a disservice to the season - and therefore are bogus.

Date: Sun Jun 9 02:53:09 2024
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
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Miguel Cabrera


Some of those seasons in the early 2010's were like batting the ball akin to Ted Williams, and every bit as impressive as Pujols' numerous great seasons...so I would say: "Yes. Miggy is a first-ballot HOFer."


Date: Sun Jun 9 03:12:55 2024
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
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Nurse saves umpire at baseball game (msn.com)


Date: Sun Jun 9 21:17:15 2024
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
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DET NYY NYM LAD MIL OF Curtis Granderson deserves a few HOF votes to justify his superior MLB career...lead-off HRs?



Curtis


Date: Sun Jun 9 21:41:57 2024
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:
Night baseball must be the norm in London.

Date: Sun Jun 9 22:55:23 2024
User: TNmountainman
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Ray Schalk's .253 is currently the lowest BA of those in The Hall.  Granderson's .249 (only once hitting over .280) thus is pretty anemic. And yes, while BA certainly isn't the best metric for evaluating hitters.........that creates a massive barrier to overcome for voters.  Sorta the same with his WAR.  Not a pure death knell in  and of itself.............but not enough other stuff to pull him up.

Miggy, of course, is a different story.  Should be nearly automatic first-ballot. 


Date: Sun Jun 9 23:09:12 2024
User: TNmountainman
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All of which reminds me..........I came across a trivia tidbit in this realm recently:  What player NOT in The Hall received the highest percentage of "yes" first round ballots?

(Hint - a "modern"-era player.)


Date: Sun Jun 9 23:47:29 2024
User: TNmountainman
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Ok, here's another trivia tidbit very peripherally related.....

In history, only 3 batting titles have been won by players who hit 0 home runs in those years.  Willie Keeler in 1897, Zack Wheat in 1918, and one "modern" player. Who?  

(Hint - first ballot HOF)


Date: Mon Jun 10 14:15:50 2024
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
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Pete Rose and Rod Carew.

Date: Mon Jun 10 14:50:59 2024
User: TNmountainman
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Wrong on Rose (but good guess).  Right on Carew.  He hit. 318 in '72 with 0 dingers.

P.S. - the non-HOF guy was an NL player, tho, like Rose.  I think exclusively, without looking it up.


Date: Mon Jun 10 16:31:46 2024
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
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Barry Bonds (but I wanted to guess the (AL) CHW Joe Jackson)...or Tim Raines, but he's in the Hall now from "Veteran's Committee" election (maybe).

Date: Mon Jun 10 16:39:34 2024
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
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What if the Pirates still had (their farm products) Tyler Glasnow and Gerritt Cole?


Date: Mon Jun 10 17:32:07 2024
User: TNmountainman
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Not Bonds, but another good guess.  Joe Jackson was not a "modern-era player".   This guy's career mostly (not totally) overlapped Rose's.


Date: Mon Jun 10 20:13:20 2024
User: TNmountainman
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Two more clues which should give the answer:  west coast guy; and in the news recently quite a bit for something unrelated to sports.


Date: Mon Jun 10 23:08:56 2024
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
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Steve Garvey.


Date: Tue Jun 11 00:50:45 2024
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
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This guy started Game 7 of the 2018 NLCS for the Brewers? I'd forgotten this sometimes-decent hurler...but since his career tanked after that loss, it must wear on him to this day...





...Jhoulys Chacin...


Date: Wed Jun 12 03:01:56 2024
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
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Avid Red fan


Date: Wed Jun 12 03:17:08 2024
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
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Satchel Paige


Dad saw him pitch for CLE.


Date: Wed Jun 12 03:43:45 2024
User: TNmountainman
Message:

Yeah, we've mentioned ol' Satch a few times here in the past.....


That said.................here's a little factoid that you may, or may not, be aware of.............    Being a Milwaukee guy, I'm sure you're aware of Tony Kubek, even tho he was before your time.  In '57, the Braves tangled with the Yanks in the W.S. - Braves winning 4-3.  In game 3 of that Series, Kubek (in his first year in the majors) hit 2 HR and had 4 RBIs.  And where did that happen?  In Milwaukee's County Stadium, of course!  NY came back to turn the table on the Bravos the next year, also 4-3.

And altho Kubek isn't in *the* HOF, he *is* in the Canadian Baseball HOF, *and* the Polish-American Sports HOF.


And now................for the (very peripherally-related) trivia question, which you likely know.........

The Braves came to Milwaukee from Boston, where they were (of course) the Boston Braves (along with several other monikers going back in time).  Later on, they moved to Hotlanta.  So.....how many years were the Braves in Milwaukee - without looking it up?:

a. 13 years

b.  24 years

c.  31 years

d.  38 years


Date: Wed Jun 12 04:11:15 2024
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:
I'm glad you made a. the obvious choice.

Date: Wed Jun 12 04:25:06 2024
User: TNmountainman
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Isn't/wasn't obvious to us older folks.  When I was growing up...........they were already the "Milwaukee Braves" - as if it had always been so.   I remember being surprised they were only there that long.  Only *much* later did I learn of the Doves, Bees, Red Caps, and even Red Stockings.  As well as the odd situation of them being the host *Nat'l* League team - in Fenway - for the 1914 Series. 

p.s. - I *almost* put 18-19 years, or similar, as a choice.


Date: Wed Jun 12 04:28:06 2024
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
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I want the Brewers to pursue starters Kopech and Quintana for trade deadline improvement.


Date: Thu Jun 13 02:37:19 2024
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
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Mike Marshall only got 6 HOF votes back in '87 and no more...he deserved more consideration.


Mike Marshall


Date: Thu Jun 13 03:47:05 2024
User: TNmountainman
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Well.........maybe, but I don't think so.  His (voting) stats, compared to other HOFers, are incredibly weak.  Which doesn't prove anything necessarily, but I tend to think when the collective intelligence is that strongly against him, there must be something to it.  And his WAR was only 18-something, less than half that of (average) HOFer relief pitchers.  But that 1974 year was crazy for him.  He didn't start any of the Dodgers games, but *finished* over half of them, accumulating 208 IP, more than any of their starters besides Messersmith (20 W; 13 CG) and Sutton (19 W; 10 CG).  'Course he *did* win the Cy Young that year.  Back then it was nearly impossible for relievers to be considered for the Hall.  It's certainly loosened up lately, but I just don't think he fully measured up.  But ok - maybe he deserved like 8 (or 9) - votes......  There are sooo many who deserve more consideration - altho many of them are hitters.  


Date: Thu Jun 13 05:37:31 2024
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

I'd vote 1B Joey Votto second-ballot, Ps Kershaw Verlander 1B Pujols first-ballot, and I'd for a Yankee too:

Andy Pettitte


Date: Fri Jun 14 21:41:50 2024
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
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Sometimes Elly de la Cruz looks like a young, raw Vlad Guererro to me...unreal skill set.


Date: Sun Jun 16 03:27:57 2024
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

Devers hits the ball like Yaz.


Date: Sun Jun 16 03:39:33 2024
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

At least we had to wait 15 years to suffer another NYY WS.


Date: Sun Jun 16 03:56:15 2024
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

It would help CHC to sooner rather than later realize they're "sellers" in this upcoming MLB trade dead-line (end July))...(somebody might want Morel).


Date: Sun Jun 16 23:39:49 2024
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

Easy access to all MLB playoff game box scores


Date: Mon Jun 17 00:46:32 2024
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

Is Joc Pedersen the new Matt Stairs?


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