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Subject: Never won winnables!

Server time: Wed Sep 23 00:21

Date: Sat Nov 22 14:38:05 2025
User: smelly_cootiefied_fence_post
Message:

Putrid:


7x3 1544-5
Game stats:55/0/0%

Date: Fri Nov 28 13:34:31 2025
User: outskirts
Message:
Mode:Streak
Game:10x1 25189-12
Game stats:4/1/25%
Player Elo:1867.411  3.387
Elapsed:13:00
Streak:8
Today:1

Date: Sat Dec 6 09:48:24 2025
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Game: 8x3 5324-10;.....  Game stats: 4/1/25%/1803;.....  Player Elo: 2286.546, up 0.47.


Date: Sat Dec 6 12:18:52 2025
User: thebangles
Message:


So awful!


Date: Sun Dec 14 17:01:53 2025
User: Ellie2
Message:

Game: 5x8 23896-6;.....  Game stats: 4/1/25%/1684;.....  Player Elo: 2264.442 ▲ 0.274.

This one was also rather "awful"!


Date: Sat Jan 3 03:31:24 2026
User: smelly_cootiefied_fence_post
Message:
6x5 26255-5
Game stats:22/1/4.5%


Yes - it *was* every bit that hard.  Not the least waft surprised it hadn't been won.  Every once in a while even a blind fence post finds a friendly groundhog.


Date: Sat Jan 3 03:47:03 2026
User: smelly_cootiefied_fence_post
Message:

And on the contrary............this one was a breath of Spring air:

Game:5x6 28575-5
Game stats:4/1/25% 

Date: Fri Jan 9 15:42:28 2026
User: Ellie2
Message:

Game: 9x1 4499-5;.....  Game stats: 41/1/2.4%/2168;.....  Player Elo: 2262.505 ▲ 2.975.

Very challenging game!


Date: Sun Jan 11 23:37:17 2026
User: thebangles
Message:



Date: Wed Jan 14 12:12:15 2026
User: outskirts
Message:

Mode: Streak

Game: 5x8 25197-5

Game stats: 4/1/25%

Player Elo: 1798.497 ▲ 1.947

Elapsed: 03:18

Streak: 6

Today: 6



Date: Thu Jan 22 13:05:06 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

6x6 4986-9...................first of seven...[toot toot].


Date: Thu Jan 22 13:53:56 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

6x6 26242-9................first of five...


Date: Tue Jan 27 18:54:52 2026
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Game: 9x1 24396-5;.....  Game stats: 35/1/2.9%/2153;.....  Player Elo: 2215.905 ▲ 3.325.

That is my biggest 1 game 'Elo' improvement in a very long time, imo!


Date: Thu Jan 29 00:43:43 2026
User: thebangles
Message:



Date: Tue Feb 3 15:06:57 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

8x3 25644-12...first of one hundred something, but I failed thrice (or so).


Date: Fri Feb 13 11:46:28 2026
User: outskirts
Message:
Mode:Streak
Game:10x1 21088-12
Game stats:3/1/33.3%
Player Elo:1879.287  1.911
Elapsed:12:33
Streak:20
Today:9

Date: Sat Feb 14 04:20:26 2026
User: smelly_cootiefied_fence_post
Message:

This reeks:


6x4 22697-5

Elapsed:04:38
Game stats:74/0/0%
Elo:1870.253 -0.589

Date: Sat Feb 14 09:23:50 2026
User: outskirts
Message:

My first 6x4 today in the SSC was 93/0.

6x4s aren't supposed to be winnable. So your reekiness doesn't belong in this thread.

Not complaining, just saying. 


Date: Sat Feb 14 11:20:59 2026
User: smelly_cootiefied_fence_post
Message:

But because I lost points - it *is* winnable - or so the machines say.  So yes, it does belong. 

P.S. - "Not to mention"............a lot of these climate 5 games have winning percentages in the single digits (or thereabouts) - unbecoming of climate 5 in virtually any variant.  Since andaronjim quit coming around, these things have gotten very loose. 


Date: Sat Feb 14 11:54:22 2026
User: outskirts
Message:
U say black is white.

Date: Sat Feb 14 14:14:30 2026
User: redberet
Message:

As the title states never won winnables. Any wins should not be posted here. Cooties miserable loss truly belongs here.


Date: Sat Feb 14 15:31:31 2026
User: outskirts
Message:

6x4s are not guaranteed winnable. 


Date: Sat Feb 14 16:59:20 2026
User: redberet
Message:

My take would be to include any winnable game regardless of a dubious history. Dubious as in connections to the famous gang of winnables, the likes of which, have wrought havoc since the day they were conceived. But that's just my uneducated take.


Date: Sun Feb 15 02:39:49 2026
User: smelly_cootiefied_fence_post
Message:

Gosh, I can't believe the accursed winnables flavor has been around for over 10 years.  Makes me feel old.  As if.........

That said..........TT started this thread just over 10 years ago, and here are his criteria - or at least this germane part of it:

 Date: Fri Jan 22 04:01:30 2016

User: TitanicTony
Message:
We find the game numbers of the unwon winnables by reporting them here, whenever they occur
!

So I really don't grasp why someone would think my reeker doesn't belong here.  Just sayin'.


Date: Sun Feb 15 17:48:10 2026
User: outskirts
Message:
Mode:Streak
Game:10x1 11337-12
Elapsed:05:51
Game stats:17/0/0%
Elo:1880.167 -6.2
Streak was:


3


Date: Sat Feb 21 01:03:19 2026
User: thebangles
Message:


My understanding of this thread is that it is a place to either bring attention to a game that either still hasn’t been won or tick off another game from the list of unwon winnables.


This one wasn’t as hard as a few others I have tackled lately but had been previously won. But it’s a fun one to try.


Date: Sat Feb 28 04:17:19 2026
User: smelly_cootiefied_fence_post
Message:

Pretty rank:

6x5 10350-5
Elapsed:04:15
Game stats:24/0/0%

Date: Sat Feb 28 18:48:38 2026
User: smelly_cootiefied_fence_post
Message:

URGENT call to andaronjim!!  (And yes, this one and the one above both winnable, as per the solvers.)

6x5 9038-5
Elapsed:07:20
Game stats:85/0/0%

Date: Sat Feb 28 20:36:43 2026
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Game: 6x5 26307-6;.....  Game stats: 6/1/16.7%/1826;.....  Player Elo: 2205.099 ▲ 0.814.


Date: Thu Mar 19 12:44:46 2026
User: TitanicTony
Message:

This was a tough one:

Game: 9x1 14345-5;....  Game stats: 43/1/2.3%/2189;....  Player Elo: 2200.699 ▲ 3.91.


Date: Fri Mar 27 16:07:08 2026
User: TitanicTony
Message:
Game:5x7 7617-5
Elapsed:08:06
Game stats:6/0/0%
Elo:2189.526 -7.191
Streak was:9


I spent nearly a week on this game!

I would really like to know how it can be won???


Date: Fri Mar 27 22:00:40 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

Weak? That's tough.

I ain't brave enough to try.


Date: Sat Mar 28 02:41:40 2026
User: TitanicTonys_deckofcards
Message:

It'll take me more than a weak/week to recover, I'm tellin' ya!!!


Date: Sat Mar 28 17:59:57 2026
User: TitanicTony
Message:

FINALLY, no mistake this time:

Game: 10x0 26029-5;....  Game stats: 28/1/3.6%/;....  Player Elo: 2190.831 ▲ 3.987.


Date: Sun Mar 29 10:06:42 2026
User: Ellie2
Message:

Game: 7x3 31958-6;....  Game stats: 3/1/33.3%/1762;....  Player Elo: 2264.021 ▲ 0.423.

It wasn't THAT difficult, imo.


Date: Wed Apr 1 00:01:27 2026
User: thebangles
Message:


I wouldn’t normally bring this up here since I am the only one to ever play it, but that “Elapsed” is a large underestimate of the time I spent staring at the screen. I think it’s the hardest one I can recall ever playing. There were so many promising methods that went nowhere. The one I finally found I had to plan 50 moves before I could get a column free (with two freecells open). I had to double, triple and quadruple check that it really was going to work using much of the logic in another thread of things to avoid.


i feel like I shouldn’t get another one like that for a long time. You hear, dealer?



Date: Wed Apr 1 01:48:56 2026
User: TNmountainman
Message:

That's impressive..............but how, pray tell, did you remember 50 moves.  That seems rather superhuman.


Date: Wed Apr 1 09:34:24 2026
User: thebangles
Message:

I guess I would say visualization. After looking at that game for soooo damn long, I could see the whole stupid thing in my head even though I never wanted to. Actually, I didn’t know the suit of every card but whether they were red or black and many of their suits.

I don’t think I used to be able to do that. It came with years of Freecelling.

i can still tell you the moves that got me a free column right now even though I would prefer it if my brain would move on.


Date: Fri Apr 10 13:38:12 2026
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Game: 7x4 31731-7;....  Game stats: 4/1/25%/1703;....  Player Elo: 2187.969 ▲ 0.463.


Date: Tue Apr 14 18:49:49 2026
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Game: 5x7 18266-5;....  Game stats: 3/1/33.3%/1727;....  Player Elo: 2200.881 ▲ 0.492.


Date: Thu Apr 23 12:50:56 2026
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Game: 7x3 246-5;....  Game stats: 48/1/2.1%/2073;....  Player Elo: 2195.903 ▲ 2.675.


Date: Thu Apr 23 13:55:32 2026
User: TNmountainman
Message:

Intricate, but not really that hard:

10x1 7715-7
Game stats:5/1/20%

Date: Thu Apr 23 16:57:58 2026
User: Ellie2
Message:

WOW, TT, 1/48 (and +2.675) -- VERY nice!


Date: Thu Apr 23 17:08:54 2026
User: BuzzClik
Message:

🤦‍♂️


Date: Thu Apr 23 18:26:46 2026
User: firenze
Message:

Now he's is talking to himself.

If you're going to delete any thread, this one should be on the top of the list.



Date: Thu Apr 30 09:50:52 2026
User: thebangles
Message:

This is surprising. It’s a fun one if you want a challenge but not a maddening frustration. Also given the record, I wouldn’t have minded a bit higher of an ELO boost.


Date: Sat May 2 23:12:13 2026
User: smelly_cootiefied_fence_post
Message:

As detailed in the SSC for 7x4 today:

7x4 13837-7
Elapsed:08:16
Game stats:5/0/0%

Date: Thu May 7 14:15:54 2026
User: TNmountainman
Message:

Normally I wouldn't denote such a game, of which I was only the second contestant......but it really was a challenge:

6x6 28217-6
Game stats:2/1/50%

Date: Sat May 9 08:53:41 2026
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Game: 11x0 11510-5;....  Game stats: 46/1/2.2%/2132;....  Player Elo: 2196.971 ▲ 3.305.

I don't think it was THAT difficult!

Using cards does require some patience, but it has good rewards, imo!!!


Date: Wed May 20 11:07:02 2026
User: TNmountainman
Message:
5x7 23892-5
Game stats:5/1/20%


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