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Subject: Seldom won winnable games.

Server time: Tue Sep 22 07:43

Date: Fri Jul 4 02:45:50 2025
User: kangaroo
Message:

Got it in replay. 

         You Win

Game:10x0 25836-5
Game stats:44/2/4.5%
Player Elo:n/a
Elapsed:6:41

Date: Sun Jul 6 16:41:53 2025
User: Ellie2
Message:

Game: 11x0 31820-5;.....  Game stats: 42/6/14.3%/1873;.....  Player Elo: xxxx ▲ 0.623.


Date: Mon Jul 7 07:19:21 2025
User: Ellie2
Message:

Game: 9x2 19355-8;.....  Game stats: 4/2/50%/1652;.....  Player Elo: xxxxx ▲ 0.183.

Game: 9x2 16021-8;.....  Game stats: 20/4/20%/1789;.....  Player Elo: xxxxx ▲ 0.391.


Date: Tue Jul 8 05:30:03 2025
User: smelly_cootiefied_fence_post
Message:

Pretty tricky, with a rather elegant solution, as opposed to pungent.  But definitely needs to be moved up to about climate 9 or so:

7x4 9936-5
Game stats:263/21/8%/1935

Date: Tue Jul 8 12:36:19 2025
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Game: 8x2 22724-5;.....  Game stats: 57/7/12.3%/1925;.....  Player Elo: xxxx ▲ 0.857.

Game:6x4 31990-5;.....  Game stats: 94/8/8.5%/2022;.....  Player Elo: xxxx ▲ 1.382.


Date: Thu Jul 10 16:19:41 2025
User: Ellie2
Message:

Game: 8x3 29515-10;.....  Game stats: 6/2/33.3%/1759;.....  Player Elo: xxxx ▲ 0.326.


Date: Sat Jul 12 16:44:03 2025
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

22xx/587 is near four, which is quite good.


Date: Sat Jul 12 17:15:13 2025
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

25xx/765...also good.


Date: Sat Jul 12 18:06:25 2025
User: Ellie2
Message:

Game: 10x1 24437-7;.....  Game stats: 19/3/15.8%/1502;.....  Player Elo: xxxxx ▲ 0.076.

I thought that this game deserved an 'Elo' greater than '1502'!


Date: Mon Jul 14 05:23:40 2025
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Game: 6x4 22867-5;.....  Game stats: 58/4/6.9%/2026;.....  Player Elo: xxxx ▲ 1.376.


Date: Mon Jul 14 10:26:11 2025
User: Ellie2
Message:

Game: 6x4 18303-5;.....  Game stats: 82/4/4.9%/2099;.....  Player Elo: xxxxx ▲ 1.838.


Date: Thu Jul 17 22:31:31 2025
User: kangaroo
Message:

Toughie!

Game:12x0 18642-5
Game stats:45/4/8.9%/1831
Player Elo:1815.520  4.277
Elapsed:11:17
Streak:5

Date: Fri Jul 18 19:09:03 2025
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Game: 10x0 15304-5;.....  Game stats: 25/3/12%/2007;.....  Player Elo: xxxx ▲ 1.224.


Date: Sat Jul 19 14:32:11 2025
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Game: 10x0 6043-5;.....  Game stats: 17/2/11.8%/1980;.....  Player Elo: xxxx ▲ 1.049.


Date: Sat Jul 19 15:09:40 2025
User: d164280a
Message:

10x0 9787-5 24/1/4.2%/2068 no cards


Date: Sat Jul 19 21:43:44 2025
User: d164280a
Message:

10x0 17359-5 25/1/4%/2148 no cards


Date: Tue Jul 22 06:34:21 2025
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Game: 9x1 6499-5;.....  Game stats: 42/3/7.1%/2003;.....  Player Elo: xxxx ▲ 1.163.

@ d164280a:   There's another thread for "Never won winnables."


Game: W9x2 28715-9;.....  Game stats: 110/5/4.5%/2069;.....  Player Elo: xxxx ▲ 1.585.


Date: Thu Jul 24 15:35:30 2025
User: Ellie2
Message:

Game: 8x3 26035-10;.....  Game stats: 25/4/16%/1733;.....  Player Elo: xxxxx ▲ 0.290.

Game: 6x5 28787-5;.....  Game stats: 11/3/27.3%/1770;.....  Player Elo: xxxxx ▲ 0.355.


Date: Tue Jul 29 11:05:37 2025
User: outskirts
Message:

From the Monday 8x2 competition yesterday 



Date: Tue Jul 29 11:09:24 2025
User: outskirts
Message:

Ellie and Tony: Please don't bother going to all the trouble to hide your elo. I want to see it. Who cares what some troll thinks 💬 


Date: Tue Jul 29 11:56:09 2025
User: Ellie2
Message:

@ outskirts:  I think some players thought we were boasting, or bragging, or something.

If you click on any players name on any game stats page, you can see their 'Elo' (5th item in the list).

You can then also see their 'Elo' history graph.


Date: Tue Jul 29 17:00:54 2025
User: Ellie2
Message:

Since outskirts asked nicely, I will now leave my 'Elo' visible.  I'm hoping for 3000  but probably not this year).

Game: 6x7 1663-8;.....  Game stats: 10/3/30%/1691;.....  Player Elo: 2308.639 ▲ 0.223.


Date: Tue Jul 29 17:20:48 2025
User: firenze
Message:

ain't worth spit.


Date: Wed Jul 30 03:59:06 2025
User: outskirts
Message:



Date: Wed Jul 30 12:57:22 2025
User: Kumquat-of-Conciliation
Message:

Ellie2:  "I think some players thought we were boasting, or bragging, or something."

Duh.  There's really no other reasonable explanation.  So yeah, that's the whole point of what you (all?) do.  If not, as has been pointed out countless times, you'd play as anonymous.  And you (all?) have never responded to that point.  Never.  Self-aggrandizement - time after time.  Self-aggrandizement - time after time.  Self-aggrandizement - time after time.  Self-aggrandizement - time after time.  Self-aggrandizement - time after time.  Self-aggrandizement - time after time.  Self-aggrandizement - time after time.  Self-aggrandizement - time after time.  Self-aggrandizement - time after time.  Self-aggrandizement - time after time.  Self-aggrandizement - time after time.  Self-aggrandizement - time after time.  Self-aggrandizement - time after time.  Self-aggrandizement - time after time.  Self-aggrandizement - time after time.  Self-aggrandizement - time after time.  Self-aggrandizement - time after time.  Self-aggrandizement - time after time.  Self-aggrandizement - time after time.  Self-aggrandizement - time after time.  Self-aggrandizement - time after time.  Self-aggrandizement - time after time.  Self-aggrandizement - time after time.  Self-aggrandizement - time after time.  Self-aggrandizement - time after time. 


Date: Thu Jul 31 08:10:20 2025
User: Ellie2
Message:

Game: W6x5 17289-5;.....  Game stats: 25/2/8%/1966;.....  Player Elo: 2313.122 ▲ 0.967.

What a good game to win!!  HORRAY for using cards!!

My Dad taught me at a young age to always "try to do my best"!

He also taught me not to worry too much about "what other people think"!

America even fought a Civil War because of what other people thought (and did)!

Fortunately, Freecell isn't THAT important.


Date: Thu Jul 31 09:14:18 2025
User: outskirts
Message:

Here is someone's assessment of the movie that contains the above picture which I meant to illustrate the hopelessness and futility of TN's efforts to control others with feeble mind control. The review is nearly as entertaining as the 40 year old pre-internet movie. 

https://youtu.be/bXORbG4o9K0?si=aeXT3LEXqbIvDR80 



Date: Thu Jul 31 10:14:51 2025
User: outskirts
Message:

Here is what Freecell Land looks like to those of us who live there. By the way, I didn't hijack your thread. 😁

https://youtu.be/VsIdpbAxAFQ?feature=shared 


Date: Thu Jul 31 10:28:19 2025
User: Ellie2
Message:

Thanks, outskirts.  I watched the whole 9+ minutes of the review.

I think I get that how people think (or fail to think) cannot be controlled.

Otoh, we have a multi-billion dollars advertising industry aimed at influencing peoples choices.


Date: Thu Jul 31 10:34:56 2025
User: outskirts
Message:

I don't really understand why so much $$ is spent trying to influence folks on what to brush their teeth with or with which tissue to wipe. I mean, really. 


Date: Thu Jul 31 10:38:20 2025
User: outskirts
Message:

By the way, Tuttle is Robert De Niro and Sam's mom is the ever lovely Katherine Helmond. 


Date: Thu Jul 31 10:46:45 2025
User: outskirts
Message:

By the way, I'm out of TP right now, and I've gone through all the kleenex. I'm using paper towels and need to make a store run. I will purchase the $1 packs. 


Date: Thu Jul 31 11:49:25 2025
User: firenze
Message:

TMI


Date: Thu Jul 31 12:21:57 2025
User: outskirts
Message:

here's a bone 



Date: Sat Aug 2 10:15:15 2025
User: TitanicTony
Message:

Hummm, this one didn't seem difficult, imo:

Game: 8x3 14622-10;.....  Game stats: 52/4/7.7%/2011;.....  Player Elo: 2309.615 ▲ 1.234.

This one was also not very difficult, imo:

Game: 8x3 16029-10;.....  Game stats: 30/5/16.7%/1908;.....  Player Elo: 2310.803 ▲ 0.721.

This one was much more difficult:

Game: 8x3 29122-10;.....  Game stats: 43/3/7%/2021;.....  Player Elo: 2312.082 ▲ 1.279.


Date: Sun Aug 3 13:56:53 2025
User: outskirts
Message:

You Win

Game: W9x2 13902-5

Game stats: 50/6/12%/1843

Player Elo: 1788.220 ▲ 4.736


Date: Tue Aug 5 21:21:22 2025
User: kangaroo
Message:

I'll take it - all required cards, hearts and clubs aligned in the same column!

Game:9x0 8618-5
Game stats:38/2/5.3%/2180
Player Elo:1799.569  7.257
Elapsed:7:23
Streak:1

Date: Mon Aug 11 09:05:20 2025
User: kangaroo
Message:

Could have got another streak of 2 in 8x0 but this game was a monster! Sixteen of the attempts are mine.

Game:8x0 28051-5
Game stats:17/1/5.9%
Player Elo:n/a
Elapsed:3:47
Streak:n/a

Date: Tue Aug 19 06:19:50 2025
User: kangaroo
Message:

One of the most bizarre 7x3s I've seen! Got it in one.

Mode:Tournament
Game:7x3 16872-9
Game stats:117/8/6.8%
Elapsed:03:25

Date: Tue Aug 19 09:12:09 2025
User: Uberman
Message:

Thanks for the reminder, I meant to try that 8x0 the other day but forgot. Took me a few mins before I realised which column could be cleared, and even after clearing two it's still possible to screw it up unless you're very careful. I'm glad you already had the 2 streak in the bag before this opportunity came along!

(Side note - I think I must be doing something wrong when selecting the game to play, as none of my four attempts added to the play total)


Date: Tue Aug 19 09:16:07 2025
User: cellmate
Message:

new feature... 'Not Scored' is not scored



Date: Tue Aug 19 09:41:28 2025
User: Uberman
Message:

I played under Not Scored first (an 8x4) then realised what I'd done, so quickly quit that game and changed to custom, but I thought custom games did add to the play totals.


Date: Tue Aug 19 10:19:13 2025
User: AndrewMcCabe
Message:

Scoring and recording of custom games are currently not functioning. It's in the queue, but not high on the list. 


Date: Tue Aug 19 16:19:30 2025
User: MrFixit
Message:

Is there a problem with Custom scoring? If you select "play for streak" and "random" and a difficulty level that's appropriate for your streak 5 + (streak / 10) it will score. Now if you fail to meet all the requirements for streak play it just silently fails which is not good. But one thing at a time...


Date: Tue Aug 19 17:47:50 2025
User: rbw--3
Message:

Custom works fine in streak mode. Still getting the unadjusted low ELO's (as of yesterday) more often since custom levels tend to be played less.


Date: Tue Aug 19 18:44:20 2025
User: MrFixit
Message:

Yeah fixing Elo is on my list. Hopefully times will get fixed tonight.


Date: Tue Aug 19 21:02:30 2025
User: rbw--3
Message:

Thank you. Get some rest!


Date: Wed Sep 3 03:48:34 2025
User: TNmountainman
Message:

Intricate:

10x1 32244-5
Game stats:75/3/4%

Date: Sun Sep 7 16:40:33 2025
User: kangaroo
Message:

Not easy. Clearing a column is only half the fun!

Mode:Streak
Game:12x0 30724-5
Game stats:59/9/15.3%
Player Elo:1834.541  3.749
Elapsed:15:22
Streak:7

Date: Mon Sep 8 19:29:32 2025
User: outskirts
Message:
Mode:Streak
Game:5x8 4188-7
Game stats:31/5/16.1%
Player Elo:1812.659  4.931
Elapsed:04:37
Streak:23
Today:23


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