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Date: Fri Aug 14 18:01:54 2026
User: TNmountainmanMUDstains
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I kinda feel bad for El Tigres, but on the other hand, aren't they being self-destructive - again?  That organization, seems to me, are virtually always in "buy" or "sell" mode - to the extent of having blinders on concerning where their *current* status is.  The Dodgers, however, are (as I've already stated) becoming the NL "Yankees".  Bad for baseball.....

The Dodgers are playing a different game than the rest of MLB. Their philosophy could shape baseball’s future | CNN


Date: Sat Aug 15 08:25:31 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

I hope Miz throws a perfecto tonight, and key (random) Dodger suffers season-ending injury.

(And before anyone whines about wishing ill upon one's opponent: It's all part of the game...and MLB pension is >3x average American salary...



Date: Sat Aug 15 10:44:58 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
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Mr. T. was the star at Wrigley Field the other day...I heard over the radio yesterday, and watch today...


Date: Sat Aug 15 10:56:09 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
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Satisfied Brewers Fan say: 7IP 2R 2ER H4, BB1, K11, HR(2) (Ohtani, Ohtani)


Date: Sat Aug 15 11:04:42 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

Balk calls reviewable next year, likely.


Date: Sat Aug 15 11:07:44 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

WTF (AL Pennant) Blue Jays? Forward into contention...


Date: Sat Aug 15 11:20:20 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

No AL West or Central team will win the pennant.


Date: Sat Aug 15 11:28:07 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

COL OF Zac Veen...hit into McCovey cove.



Date: Sat Aug 15 11:45:35 2026
User: smelly_cootiefied_fence_post
Message:

While TN is 'busy'.................since you bring up balks, who's the MLB all-time 'leader' for balks?  (And there's a crazy stat that goes with that.)

(And yes, he needs to dole out some answers when he comes back.)


Date: Sat Aug 15 11:57:58 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
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I guess Spahn.


Date: Sat Aug 15 14:58:00 2026
User: TNmountainman
Message:

Nope, but decent guess.  But surprise - it *is* a southpaw.


Date: Sun Aug 16 02:06:09 2026
User: .l.
Message:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/49621644/cardinals-rookie-joshua-baez-makes-history-3-hrs-debuthttps://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/49621644/cardinals-rookie-joshua-baez-makes-history-3-hrs-debutJoshua Baez,St.Louis Cardinals rookie,hits not one,not two but THREE consecutive home runs in MLB record debut.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                <Rookie Joshua Baez dont to base hits. Debuts for Cardinals with BACK-to-BACK-to-BACK HOMERS> 


Date: Sun Aug 16 08:37:38 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:
That guy should be put on plaques hung in Wrigley's toilets. 

Date: Sun Aug 16 08:38:19 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

TN, Carlton?


Date: Sun Aug 16 08:48:23 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

Rookie NYM RF Carson Benge...every time I see this dude I see AS quality all over the place (assist yesterday, WAR nearing 3).


Date: Sun Aug 16 09:00:19 2026
User: TNmountainman
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πŸ›ŽπŸ›ŽπŸ›ŽπŸ›Ž  On Carlton!  And get this -- he had TWICE as many as who's next.  And get *this* -- the guy with the second-most all-time is that *other* post-McClain 25+ game winner besides Carlton, and the most recent:  none other than, again, the non-Fleetwoods Bob Welch!!

All-Time MLB Player Pitching Stat Leaders | MLB.com


Date: Sun Aug 16 09:17:09 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
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Carlton had like 27 victories for a team that won fewer than 60...so, I'd be curious: team's record in his starts...like 33 victories, or something.


Date: Sun Aug 16 09:49:37 2026
User: TNmountainman
Message:

Yeah, *that* year, '72, the Phils were BAAAD.  They only won 59 total, and no other pitcher won more than 7 games , OR even was above .500 W-L.  So that was the first of Lefty's four Cy Youngs.  And how did Philly get Carlton??  By getting him from Busch's Cardinals for the aforementioned Rick Wise.

So..............back to the unanswered question of what was so remarkable about Wise's no-no that he threw against the Reds in '71.  Well, only 4 guys in ML history have hit a HR whilst twirling a no-no.   Wes Ferrell (1931), Jim Tobin (1944), Earl Wilson (1962), and then Rick Wise (1971).  Pretty rare event.  BUT WAIT - it's even crazier than that!  HE HIT TWO that game!  WHILE SUFFERING FROM THE FLU!!  And he was only 1 walk away from a perfecto game.  So unless baseball regains its sanity and gets rid of the DH, it'll never happen again.  Yet more to follow..................

Addendum:  When I was researching that '72 Wise and Carlton season earlier, I hypothesized that perhaps Carlton's 27/59 might be the modern record for 1 pitcher winning the highest percentage of a team's games.  Sure 'nuf................

https://www.reddit.com/r/sportsreference/comments/18jsvkr/stathead_query_request_highest_percentage_of/?solution=9b9a9c82d6f3f96a9b9a9c82d6f3f96a&js_challenge=1&token=7afd7253fec22262ff1c52b1703fe9ecde522b04e9b5ba3c199463cb5317c15b&jsc_orig_r=

""Yes, Carlton's 45.8% of team wins is the modern era (since 1900) record for the AL/NL. [There is a lot of wonkiness in the Negro Leagues and pre-1900 schedules, so that is why I limited to since 1900 and AL/NL only]. 2nd highest is Ed Walsh, who had 40 of 88 (45.5%) of the White Sox wins in 1908."

Further Addendum:  I just looked up Carlton's starts in 1972:  41 of them.  30 were CGs.  I'll let you track down how many of the 59 wins were when he started.


Date: Sun Aug 16 10:29:17 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

"...the nicest player in baseball"

The Mayor


Date: Sun Aug 16 20:12:42 2026
User: TNmountainman
Message:

Tommy John gone at 83.......


Date: Mon Aug 17 08:24:11 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:
KC Noah Cameron SHO 1H...(last KC one hitters: Greinke, Gubicza, way back...

Date: Mon Aug 17 16:21:04 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

CIN C/1B Tyler Stephenson's walk-up music (no s***):

Baltimora - Tarzan boy


Date: Mon Aug 17 18:06:06 2026
User: MrFixit
Message:

Regarding my post last week about that weird call in the Red  Sox/Blue Jays game. Jomdoy did a good breakdown on it and now I think I slightly understand it.  So a runner is a "live runner" unless you throw to the base they shoulda tagged on and that's that actual out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmwFVj3b2y4

So it was a comedy of errors plus a very weird play.

MrFixit




Date: Mon Aug 17 18:18:29 2026
User: MrFixit
Message:

Btw Jomboy has set the standard for lip reading. It's sometimes pretty funny to hear him give voice to what the coaches/umps/players are saying. Not always PG. I guess you wouldn't expect a rough professional baseball coach to saw "golly gee aw shucks".


Date: Tue Aug 18 10:38:32 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
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"It was his 17th start in the big leagues. He hasn't allowed over three runs in a game yet. That's the third-longest streak in the majors since 1893, per ESPN." - MSN.com, speaking of Brewers' RHP Logan Henderson's historic start, and why he was UNTOUCHABLE in Skubal trade talks.


Date: Wed Aug 19 01:17:05 2026
User: .l.
Message:

Brewers shutout Mariners 22-o.


Date: Wed Aug 19 02:17:32 2026
User: TNmountainman
Message:

Both those last two factoids are crazy.

Addenda:  Brew Crew got 9 runs off position player late.  Matches largest margin of victory in a shutout in 126 years.


Date: Wed Aug 19 08:47:22 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
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Luis Lara got his first, but may have to wait for another position player pitching to get another (no HRs, yet he IS valuable)...before this it was Brewers 20-zip over Pirates, from a couple decades ago.


Date: Wed Aug 19 09:28:41 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

RF/1B/3B Butch Huskey 1971-2026


Date: Wed Aug 19 10:52:27 2026
User: TNmountainman
Message:

Headline in the "Journal Sentinel":

PILOTS HUMILIATE UPSTART MARINERS 

Demand Obeisance for "Getting the Ball Rolling"

(As Jim Bouton chuckles in his grave........)


Date: Wed Aug 19 12:25:04 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:
Gotta credit Milwaukee fan base...I see games all over MLB with sparse sparse turnout (CIN), but Brew Crew drawing 35k on Tuesday night even...

Date: Wed Aug 19 12:29:11 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
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TN, you know the rules...mercy ending to any lopsided game...seems seventh or later leads of twelve or greater maybe a "mercy" rule (SOLELY at loser's request, OF COURSE) make sense...albeit a tad disrespectful to those who slog through the 17-2 games?


Date: Wed Aug 19 12:35:16 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
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But hey, I was rooting HARD for the Mariners to beat Blue Jays last year's ALCS!

Date: Wed Aug 19 12:38:48 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
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Skenes on the mound today for PIT, with O'Neil Cruz back in CF after long IR stint.


Date: Wed Aug 19 13:37:00 2026
User: TNmountainman
Message:

No, don't know "those rules" - for MLB.  "It ain't over 'til the Fat Lady sings", and all that.  I think it's ok for LL games, or high school, even - or at most *maybe* small college ball.  I'm betting 98% of MLBers would be against such a 'rule'.  One doesn't get to that level by "giving up".   I agree with the sentiment, but no, I don't buy into that one.  By that point in a career, a decent number of position players have done some pitching - as you likely know.  And if they haven't cultivated 1 or 2 of those.................with the limited number of pitches a lot of guys throw, that's on management to 'solve' that situation.  IMO.  That's *one of* the beauties of baseball - the uncertainty of the outcome until that Fat Lady finally *does* sing.  Impractical, yes, or at least arguable, but part of the 'beauty' of it - just like the occasional 17- or 22-inning game *used to* be.  

Futbol and hockey suffer by comparison, with their shoot-outs.  Again, IMO.  I understand that philosophy, if one can call it that - but it's trying to make a round peg fit into a square hole.


Date: Wed Aug 19 13:40:10 2026
User: TNmountainman
Message:

I was rooting for the Mariners, too, but mostly because the Jays had already had a couple of turns.  Toronto is a pretty cool place - altho maybe not as much as it once was.  Seattle, too, tho, so no advantage there (pun of course intended).  The sadness that was Sick's Stadium doomed that one *before* it ("the ball") got rolling.


Date: Wed Aug 19 13:55:03 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

I agree re: obvious routs, though I do foresee some rule alteration in MLB's future...


Date: Wed Aug 19 13:58:58 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

But it's clear Gary Sanchez can pitch at times as well as his at times (<average) defense behind the plate...but wow! Vaughn's knuckler was impressive...in slo-mo replay I SAW ZERO BALL ROTATIONS!


Date: Wed Aug 19 14:08:00 2026
User: TNmountainman
Message:

I won't bother to 'game out' whatever MLB does from here on out.  It almost doesn't matter to me since they've truly ruined a large part of the game for me.  (And the players also deserve a good share of the blame, with the two "S's" - "strikes and steroids".  There's now *at least* one whole generation, if not 1.5, who don't know what they're missing.  Oh well............


Date: Wed Aug 19 14:52:41 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

TN, you and I (and maybe two (or six) other HISTORICALLY huge-time MLB fans) should play this game:

A draft: choosing 25 for your postseason roster...

...consisting of any baseball player who has ever walked the Earth...

Then, a bracket (if enough are playing) in NINE-games series with advancement determined by KNOWN BASEBALL EXPERTS--or, if impossible--a MATHEMATICAL/WEB/DATA computer-baseball-fantasy-geek determination...

I've had parts of this sort of team in mind for years...

Something extensive, involved, sounds like fun to me...

Arguments here and there, but over imaginary teams, imaginary match-ups...

Like kids play Pokemon or whatever...

(I even have one or two Bill Veeck-approved picks to lighten the competitive mood...


Fantasy baseball TO THE MAX...


Date: Wed Aug 19 15:22:34 2026
User: TNmountainman
Message:

Great idea............but my (dwindling) time on this plane of existence would not allow for that frivolity.   Not to mention...................that'd be "fiction" - something I rarely ever indulge in, either printed or tv shows or movies.  Yes, I'm boring like that........


Date: Wed Aug 19 16:59:40 2026
User: .l.
Message:
 TNmountainman-Never boring! Extensive online (freecell chat version) library. Similar to Khan Academy.

Date: Wed Aug 19 17:03:56 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

Unreal matchups like Kershaw pitching to DiMaggio...

DiMaggio hit like .400 career versus lefties...


Date: Wed Aug 19 17:35:29 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

Now watching D-backs in Boston.


Date: Wed Aug 19 17:37:41 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

Maybe my final selection to fill that team would be Jim Abbott.


Date: Wed Aug 19 17:47:30 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

2002 Milwaukee Brewers Statistics...Ben Sheets had a very average year (2.5 WAR)...but with utterly nothing else, Geoff Jenkins and Richie Sexson and Jose Hernandez (4.5 WAR!) couldn't come up with double digit run totals every other night.

And Dave Lopes was an utterly awful manager...and over all, the 2002 Brewers were one of the 250 worst teams all-time in MLB history.


56-106 is extra poor.



Date: Wed Aug 19 19:04:32 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

Aroldis Chapman...he's still very effective...solid career...



Date: Thu Aug 20 02:58:55 2026
User: TNmountainman
Message:

I didn't realize Abbott had lost more than he's won.  21 games under water with a 'decent' WAR for how long he was in the game.  But that '96 season *killed* his stats in that regard.   And had no idea he was from Flint.  Gosh there's a lot of good athletes from there.  Must be something in the water........πŸ˜†πŸ«£πŸ€’


Date: Thu Aug 20 12:27:47 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

The a-holes blathering here know less about this season than I do...they don't know Brewers new secret weapons: Harrison and Henderson...they have a WAR of around nine in like 90 GS between them...


..and they're controlled by the team WITH MIZ for next FIVE years...


Date: Thu Aug 20 13:09:19 2026
User: BrewCrewOldSkool
Message:

The turnout in Cincy versus Cards is pathetic...13k if they're lucky.



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