Yep - just looked it up. It's been quite a bit longer than I thought........but joey's '88 Orioles started 0-21. In no reasonable assessment is 4-25 worse than 0-21. Not remotely. That designation can't be defended.
AND..............the 2024 Pale Hose, the 2022 Rednecks and 2003 Tigers all started 3-22, also inarguably worse than 4-25.
But on the edge of my couch waiting to see if they can surpass the record for worst 41-game start. Or 58-game start. Whatever those are 🙄.
And I'm kinda surprised some of the old St. Louis Browns, Senators, or Cleveland Spiders teams aren't in there somewhere. (Well....just looked up the '99 Spiders. They started 3-20 - but played sooo much better after that (not), ending 20-134. They were 3-22 for June, 4-26 for July, and 4-26 for August. But then they faltered into a downward spiral, going 1-27 for Sept. and 0-7 in October. Not shocking the team folded after the season.) (And the Browns were 29-102 in '97, but don't know how bad their start was.)
[There is a backstory as to why the Spiders were so bad in '99, but I won't go down that tangent here. But it *did* cause repercussions that are still with us today.]
Contrived stat, but still mathematically cool: NYM *sixteenth* straight loss of 34th game of season.
Though the math may dictate such: 150 years history, up to thirty teams, 162 game seasons...but sixteen consecutive seems extreme--though maybe not.
I know that TN keeps a chart of such stats. He once posted a lengthy table of the highest and lowest number of “at bats per home run” on the Ides of March.
No, Ides of March is way too early to be playing baseball (Spring Training excepted). It was for ".........when the moon was in the seventh house.....". But yes, 16 straight losses is exceptional. But been done a few times, methinks - including the '88 Orioles and '99 Spiders as noted above. Unless there's some detail I'm not grasping in your example. (And I'm assuming the "34th game" mention is irrelevant. If not, please detail more specifically.)
The consecutive losses stat is readily available, should anyone want to dig it up.
I would like to know if any player struck out three times, once looking, once swinging, once beating out a passed ball, and then hit a game winning home run in the bottom of the ninth on a 1-2 count with two outs and men on first and third and his team down exactly two runs which the other team scored in the top of the ninth.
My memory may be failing me, but I think Myril Hoag may have done that in 1934. I am not too sure about the passed ball.
I'm assuming any *day* game of the week, firenze? And relative humidity being 'irrelevant'? Can't answer that one........but my father was one of those (moderately) few who struck out 4 in an inning. Tho not in the majors....
Specifying a specific day would be ridiculous. I mean, let's be serious about these stats.
BrewCrew, I didn't understand your post, so I researched this losing streak. I was completely off base, but yes, it's a very contrived stat. My impression was that they had a 16-game losing streak going - this season. Your post would have been more clear if you'd have noted that it was *only* for that particular iteration of yearly game. Something like "This is the 16th consecutive year that the Mets have lost their 34th game of the year." Your post wasn't technically wrong, but I sure got the wrong impression. I guess because I couldn't have imagined that specific meaning you were trying to convey. So yeah, that's pretty weird, but it's even more weird that somebody would program a computer to search for those things. Here's a fuller recounting of it:
Mets drop game No. 34, this time to the Cardinals, as wild MLB streak hits 16 years - Yahoo Sports
In the meantime.........................researching firenze's question................that's a tough one because of the passed ball aspect, as that's fairly rare in the MLB in general. I've found two instances of the HR being on a 2-2 count, but not on a 1-2 count. I think it's gonna be a null set. ⛔ 🙈💭
Reviewing the archives, I was mistaken. The stat in question was "the highest and lowest number of 'at bats per home run' on the Ides of May." An important distinction.
I remember Buddy Biancalana fitting in there somewhere.
These things are *so* much easier to clarify when they're in the "Recent sports oddities" thread. Not at all complainin; just sayin'. And thanks, Buzz, for *your* correction. I knew pretty certainly I wouldn't have made such a statistical faux pas for the Ides of *March* - which is dead in the middle of March Madness - and when baseball season is still only a glimmer in the distance.
One or more of these six won't make playoffs: LAD ARI SF PHI ATL NYM...(playoff worthy clubs...
You left out the NL Central, Brewski, and only five teams will make the playoffs when you remove the NL Central winner. So your prediction has a 100% chance of being true. And, yes, it's a shame if those teams keep up their current pace and at least one goes on an early vacation.
This is the best CHC team in at least seven years.
Pirates fire Mgr. Derek Shelton.
They need
Got tickets for Saturday's game v. Twinkies...FAN GIVEAWAY: BREWERS CRIBBAGE BOARD...niiiiiiiiice...
Cribbage board? Is it Senior Citizen Night? I already a cribbage board…
Maybe now that I'll have my own board, I'll carry it around and play (I suspect I'd never lose more than average...they'll play dollar/point...
TN:
Regarding that 16 game streak of the Mets: I was just curious how a numbers dude (analyst, engineer, theorist) would view it.....................(finding wild anomalies is cool, I suppose (like treasure hunting)).
Oh, I completely agree. That's really why "Recent sports oddities" exists, after all! Those things are "anomalies".
The Colorado Rockies fired their manager, Bud Black. Most baseball talking heads are suggesting that Black is not the problem. We will see if the Rockies can change their trajectory and escape the gravitational pull of of being historically one of the worst teams ever.
Baseball has lifted the HOF bans on Shoeless Joe and Pete Rose. Lifetime bans now end at the end of life.
Biggest (unexpected) baseball news imaginable, almost.
Not so unexpected. MLB is now posting game odds and promoting parlays during their games.
I agree. To me......disallowing the shift is a bigger surprise.
And this doesn't mean Barry, et al, will get in. But it makes it possible, I guess?
I didn't know mlb had gone "all ESPN", too. Very sad......😕.
Bonds et al. have been eligible all along, of course. I see it as different matter. When MLB starts selling PEDs to the general public ….
As for league/gambling alliances — the NBA has chosen Fan Duel — pregame, mid game, half time, postgame. It’s lovely. 🤮
Yeah, I guess I knew that Bonds was "eligible", and that PED usage isn't the same as gambling on games. Hard to argue which is worse - but does it really matter?
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Listening to the CHW/CHC on 670 (super strong signal) they were talking of Robin Ventura's career seven grand slams (impressive number), all I could think about was Robin Ventura being grand slammed by Nolan Ryan...
Speaking of old Cards, obviously Pujohls and Molina get first ballot HOF votes, but I think Matt Carpenter and Kolton Wong shouldn't really get any, ever (although a few ninth try, tenth try, or "Veteren's Ballot" nod, possibly).
A look going forward for (relatively) low-usage starters, a topic broached multiple times in this thread:
I recall how utterly flabbergasted I was a decade ago looking at Kershaw's stats from ~'09-'15...as if they were stolen from dead ball era pitching aces' statbooks.
For the salaries that starting pitchers get today, they should be carrying the bat bags to the bus.
Even tho colorized and (some) hokey audio added......this is still pretty interesting:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u4iwfqcwvjw&pp=0gcJCRUCSCBzzxdG
AMAZING that not a single team this year was in it last year - first time since 1957:
Ohtani throws 100 mph fastball in his first pitching appearance. Broke 98 a bunch of times.
The Mariners entertained the BoSox in Seattle yesterday. Raleigh gave Boston a brutal reminder of what it's like to have a power hitter on your roster.